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- 12-17-2012 07:09 PM #11
It appears that you've given this idea a lot of thought.
I imagine it would be an huge project to try to organize a buying group here on the Coffee Forum, especially since our members are from all over the world. If a few vendors were willing to offer bulk discounts and then ship the individual orders out separately, there may be a possibility that it would work. But, I can't picture that happening.
- 12-17-2012 07:39 PM #12
I think it only qualifies to members in US. I believe, this could work. Not just printed items but green beans and other things we buy by the truck loads... lol.... I think most important thing is to see how much volume we have as group. If vendors can only make few hundred dollars from us, it would not be worth much.
If anyone interested, please send me your monthly volume of items you use and the price.
I use around `1200-1400 paper cups and sleeves a month.
I could buy 300 -350 pounds of green beans a month as well...
Last edited by CoffeeJunky; 12-18-2012 at 11:45 AM.
- 12-17-2012 07:46 PM #13
I will offer my time to organize this if you let me....
- 12-25-2012 06:38 AM #14
I have to agree with eldub. I don't understand where you would save money. You described 2 scenerios, and I'll use cups in my examples...
1: You purchase 2,500 custom printed cups as 1 business and receive low quantity pricing. Not a big deal to the printer.
2: You make a group of 25 business owners and all of you approach the printer to order 2,500 different printed cups for each of your businesses. In this 2nd scenerio you would certainly receive the printer's undivided attention, but each of the 25 businesses involved would still receive the same low quantity pricing. So, a big deal to the printer, but not a big deal to the business owners.
Discounts and lower quantity pricing is given for larger individual orders, because the printer saves money by not having to change colors and plates and cup sizes, etc. The printery is setup once, and then just starts spitting out cups. But for 25 different business owners, that is 25 different times to change and setup the printery. No discount here.
- 12-25-2012 06:21 PM #15
I don't understand why you all want to say it won't work without even considering all the facts and points.
It really doesn't matter why it works or doesn't work since none of you guys are very interested in saving money in any level.....
But here is my example of just one item....COFFEE CUP
1. If you are independent buyer, you will be paying top dollars for any printing job. So whatever you printer is asking for it, that will be your price. No chance of getting any bargains or quantity discount.
This is major reason why you would do group buying.
2. I said eldub is right, we won't be getting any one quantity discount since most of the small business only orders, low quantity.. that being about 5000-10,000 cups a month per store. But if we can get about 100,000 to 500,000 cup. As 1/2 million cups a month quantity, this is not a small business anymore. If we can get more then 1 millions cups, that would be even better.... But i guess i won't know since there aren't any of you want to save money....
3. My father was in printing business and I know how this works. At the first order, most of the printers wont' make much money but this is going to be repeat business. Setting up logo, setting up the printing color and all the art work.. all those take money but once that is done, you only need to keep printing and repeat business is always plus and lucrative for the printers since all the hard work is done...
4. I currently work with local coffee roaster who serves around 300 local coffee houses... 300 in mid-west not just in Michigan and he helps everyone buy their supply together and we all get very good pricing right now. SO i know it work... and I know where to get good price. My reason for coming here is to start roasting my own beans and I will no longer get my supplies cheap since I will be leaving my roaster and will need to buy my own as one small coffee house....
Look at your books from last year and tell me how much each of you spent on disposable product ... I know how much i spent and that might not be much but if you just add about 20-100 business together, that number get very impressive.... That is what I am talking about....
Our family used to also own a restaurant near DTE energy and gave them 10 percent off not because it was cheaper or less expensive to make their food but getting their business was important.
This might not work with online printers whose only competing tool is price but it can work with mid-size printer who is looking to replace business they lost past 7 years due to bad economy......
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