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- 09-09-2006 11:24 PM #1
Coffee doesn't taste like coffee anymore.
Coffee just doesn't smell and taste the way it used to. What happened? My mother used to make coffee in a perculator. The whole house was filled with that wonderful aroma of fresh coffee. I don't remember the brand, but it was probably Maxwell House, Yuban or MJB. I tried all of them lately and they are tasteless.
For the last several years, I have been grinding my bean in a hand mill. I kind of settled on 8 O'Clock Colombian. It's not bad, but something is missing. A few years ago I bought some moka-java that was really good. When I bought the same brand again, it wasn't the same.
Sometimes McDonalds coffee is really good, but most of the time it's just like everyone else's, just hot brown water.
The closest I can come to describing the taste I looking for is good coffee flavored ice cream or hard candies. I'm not looking for a hint of strawberry or caramel, just good cup of joe.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
- 09-10-2006 07:21 AM #2
What you are missing from the percolator is boiled coffee. Take a saucepan, put some coffee in it, cover it and boil it for 30 minutes. That's what a percolator does. See if that gives you what you remember from childhood.Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water. ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
- 09-10-2006 04:08 PM #3
That's not it. I tried that. The coffee itself is different. When you open a can or bag it just doesn't smell like coffee anymore.
I live in a small town in northern AZ. The health food store sells mostly Mexican and Central American organic coffee. They had some from Peru on sale. I decided to try it because it looked to be the least burnt looking. It's actually pretty good, but it still doesn't smell like coffee.
Maybe what I'm looking for doesn't exist anymore.
I have a friend who owns a B&B. He buys Starbucks in bulk at Costco. I asked how he can serve that crap. He told me that it's what people have become used to. That's probably true. I'm 65. I imagine that most people living today have never tasted the kind of coffee I remember.
- 09-10-2006 06:12 PM #4
javahill is partly correct. The other thing you are missing is Robusto beans. Back inthe day most coffee served/sold in the US was Robusto as opposed to Arabica.
Personally I think you may be ignoring the fact that kids have much finer senses than adults do and to try and recapture that is futile but going with another type of bean may get you closer.
Not sure who(or who would for that matter)sells Robusto beans anymore. Try Old Gold if it is still around or a Vietnamese bean.I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
- 09-10-2006 10:24 PM #5
You are probably right. The only thing that I wonder about is that occasionally, I do taste coffee like it used to be. There was a restaurant in town that had really good coffee, but they went out of business and I never found out what it was. And, as I said before, sometimes McDonald's has good coffee. Not always but sometimes.
Thanks for your input. Maybe I'm just chasing things of my youth like clean air, clean water and cheap gasoline.
- 09-11-2006 05:27 AM #6
Two other things that might have contributed to the taste of coffee at your mothers... the water and any residue inside the percolator. Those were often made with stainless exteriors and aluminum interiors. That was back in the day before they figured there might be a link between alzheimers and aluminum cookware.
As far as McD - they recently changed the coffee nationwide. They are using 5 roasters to cover their needs. S&D in the southeast. Seattle's Best in the northwest. Newman's Own Organics in the Northeast. I don't know who is covering the rest of the country. The only branded one is Newman's - the rest all are called whatever Mickey D is calling their coffee.Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water. ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
- 09-11-2006 02:33 PM #7
I would agree with you, but coffee tasted pretty much the same everywhere. The coffee at a friends house tasted and smelled about the same as it did in most coffee shops. I was in the USAF in the '60s and the coffee was mostly pretty good. Who knows what was in it?
I use a drip coffee maker I got from Gavalia. I didn't care much for the coffee, but the maker works well. I use RO water most of the time. Our well water has arsenic in it. Not a lot, but I prefer not to drink it very often. When we first moved here, I did use the tap water and it didn't seem to make much difference in the taste.
Something just occured to me..... those Starbucks bottled coffee drinks taste a lot like what I remember and much better then the coffee served in their shops. I wonder what they use? (Of course, if you use enough sugar and cream, just about anything tastes good)
- 09-11-2006 07:36 PM #8
lets just say Starbucks uses a melange of different coffees in their bottled drinks. It is partly Nicaraguan I know because they used to buy from a plantation I worked for. They extract it in a toddy like process that is more akin to the extraction of cola for soft drinks.
USAF used the same as the Army I believe...maxwell house but even they are different now.I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
- 09-12-2006 05:39 AM #9
Try some fresh roasted beans from an online vendor. A vacuum brewed coffee may give you what your looking for too. In general coffee is higher quality now than years ago. If you are from the south chikory may have been added to your mothers coffee too.Enjoy Your Coffee!
- 09-12-2006 06:18 AM #10
The coffee of our grandparents is not better. It was cheaper, lower grade coffee - and more distintive.
Going back what must be 40 years, I remember the coffee smell in my grandmother's kitchen. It is something I don't smell in coffee these days.
I've been in the coffee business almost a decade and I'd like to believe I know what good coffee is as we define it today. But you know, nobody has been able to put gramma's kitchen in a bag or even in a coffee bar. My gramma didn't have an espresso machine or a French press, but there was something about that coffee experience that was great.
That is the thing - it is a coffee experience, not just coffee. Coffee I had in Budapest or on Capri is in part about the place. When you can recreate your grandmother's kitchen you'll have a better chance of recreating the coffee.
This isn't just sentimantel crap. There is an increasing amount of research done by hooking people's brains up to scanners that proves the anticipation and the environment change they physical experience of taste.Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water. ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674
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