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    Help Please: Problems with a Breville 880 Touch

    Hi all!

    First post so please be gentle if this is not adhering to the cultural norms on the forum.

    I have an Breville Oracle Touch BES880. Lately, I have been having two problems, which I think might be related? First, I am getting poor extraction in terms of volume. Second, the shots are often room temperature.

    Here are the things I have done:

    I am using single sided baskets with fresh beans.
    I have attempted to clean out the baskets by using a flame over gas stove and burning out of the old grounds.
    I have descaled and went through the cleaning cycle multiple time.
    My extraction setting has been modified between 12-17 with the same bean.

    Any other recommendations?

    Thanks!

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    Hot water works and I can froth just fine.

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    You can try turning the machine on and come back in 15-20mins before making coffee.

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    I will say that refer to the manual in details. I'm sure  you will be able to correct your problems.

    I saw a discussion on Reddit also, please check:

    reddit.com/r/Coffee/comments/bpjqza/breville_barista_touch_time_to_give_up/

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    Temperature and Flow BES880

    Quote Originally Posted by jacob12 View Post
    Hi all!

    First post so please be gentle if this is not adhering to the cultural norms on the forum.

    I have an Breville Oracle Touch BES880. Lately, I have been having two problems, which I think might be related? First, I am getting poor extraction in terms of volume. Second, the shots are often room temperature.

    Here are the things I have done:

    I am using single sided baskets with fresh beans.
    I have attempted to clean out the baskets by using a flame over gas stove and burning out of the old grounds.
    I have descaled and went through the cleaning cycle multiple time.
    My extraction setting has been modified between 12-17 with the same bean.

    Any other recommendations?

    Thanks!
    I have only had the Barista Touch for a few weeks so I'm still getting used to it. However I have found a few things:

    - Extraction volume was a problem for me at first because I had a very small grind setting, down around 7-8. There's a lot of conflicting advice on where to set this but what I eventually found was that a setting of 12-16 would give a smooth flow during brewing with a double-shot (not double-wall) basket and a firm but not excessive tamp. I think the extraction level is reasonable for this grind setting although I'm by no means an expert - I just like the flavour that comes out. At 7-8 grind I was getting low flow (mostly drips) and it took about 60 seconds to fill a 60mL cup, my normal drink. Now on 12-16 it takes somewhere between 22 and 30 seconds to fill the same cup. The Crema also seems better.

    - At low grind settings I was also getting lower temperatures, possibly because of the lower flow rate, hence longer time to cool down. You could try pre-heating everything by running water through the machine in a "dummy" brew. I checked the brew water temperature using an accurate, low-mass temperature sensor borrowed from work and it does hit 90-95 degrees at the start of a dummy brew but drops off quickly to about 70 degrees. I suspect this might be due to a high flow rate for the water with no coffee present, the thermoblock probably can't keep up the temperature at high flow.

    - I'm using the double-shot basket. I have tried the single-shot basket (single wall) and it is very hard to achieve good flow (although I might have to give it another go at the larger grind size).

    - There is a cleaning tool with the machine for pin-pricking the steam wand holes, I believe the other end of that is a pin for cleaning the basket filter holes. Probably a better idea than burning over a gas flame. Also I believe a good soak in detergent like dishwashing liquid and then a light brush will help.

 

 

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