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    are disposable coffee pour overs the next big thing?

    i live on the Big Island of Hawaii and before i moved here never knew how big Kona coffee was. Im super into coffee now and really appreciate the good stuff these days. Heard about a farm here (Mongoose Mountain Coffee) who is going to start doing disposable coffee pour overs w/ 100% kona coffee. Sounds pretty cool. never have seen them before so i looked on line and saw a few coffee companies doing it. im kinda surprised actually that there aren't more disposable pour overs on the market right now. I definitely don't see them on the shelves of most grocery stores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptrk81 View Post
    i live on the Big Island of Hawaii and before i moved here never knew how big Kona coffee was. Im super into coffee now and really appreciate the good stuff these days. Heard about a farm here (Mongoose Mountain Coffee) who is going to start doing disposable coffee pour overs w/ 100% kona coffee. Sounds pretty cool. never have seen them before so i looked on line and saw a few coffee companies doing it. im kinda surprised actually that there aren't more disposable pour overs on the market right now. I definitely don't see them on the shelves of most grocery stores.
    welcome to forum. when you say "disposable coffee pour over", do you mean the below photo style? also you said that 100% Kona coffee which is extremely expensive coffee for no reason. anyway, will it come in Ground? already packaged along with the disposable pour over?


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    by the way, I just checked the mongoose mountain coffee website.
    as I expected, they are selling 16oz coffee at double the regular (but better coffee) pricing. But considering the labor cost in Hawaii, of course, I fully understand the pricing structure.

    however, they are also selling K-cup at Kona coffee pricing.
    This, I do not understand at all. But i guess if there are market and in demand, why not....

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    ensoluna, how much do you pay a day to your pickers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongoose View Post
    ensoluna, how much do you pay a day to your pickers?
    depends on how much they pick a day. We are in Guatemala, so probably we pay one fifth of what the pickers get in Hawaii. I know how much the labor cost is in Hawaii / Kona coffee.

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    why do you say Kona coffee is extremely expensive for no reason?

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    how much do you pay for your land, water, fertilizer, labor to maintain the land , electricity?

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    Because it is! Most of forum members know that.
    Most of Kona coffee plants were from Guatemala, mainly Typica coffee plants.
    however, due to the soil conditions and lower altitude, it does not have the fine acidity and complexity that SHB typica is supposed to have.
    As far as extremely expensive for no reason, I guess I made one error saying "no reason". there is a reason. Very high labor cost. As far as I know, it will probably cost a farm $6 to $9 for one pound of green bean, completely processed green bean. Compared to Guatemala Typica bean which has better cupping profile costs around $1.50 to $2.00 range per one pound.
    Last edited by ensoluna; 04-06-2017 at 06:54 PM.

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    here's some food for thought.....last year the going rate for pickers (and all they did was pick nothing else) was .75 a pound, now as Im sure you know it takes about 6 pounds of cherry to make 1 pound of green bean, at that rate not including the labor of pulping and drying, the maintenance on equipment and electricity the picking alone cost $4.50 today green bean traded at $1.38 a pound (not Kona). Maui paid $5.00 an hour plus $1.00 per pound last year because there is no workers on their island and we will probably pay that this year. Do the math

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongoose View Post
    here's some food for thought.....last year the going rate for pickers (and all they did was pick nothing else) was .75 a pound, now as Im sure you know it takes about 6 pounds of cherry to make 1 pound of green bean, at that rate not including the labor of pulping and drying, the maintenance on equipment and electricity the picking alone cost $4.50 today green bean traded at $1.38 a pound (not Kona). Maui paid $5.00 an hour plus $1.00 per pound last year because there is no workers on their island and we will probably pay that this year. Do the math
    Yes, we all know about this. As I said, extremely expensive coffee! Also I understand that the processing and handling of coffee bean are better & cleaner than other 3rd world coffee producing countries. However, when the cupping profile / taste of coffee are considered, Kona coffee does not come close to other better coffee producing countries, Such as Ethiopia, Kenya, Guatemala, Colombia, Costa Rica, Honduras, Indonesia..etc in this order. So, for price to quality ratio, Kona is one of the worst coffee ratio in the world. (but still better than JBM in Jamaica, Luwak in Indonesia, Black Ivory coffee in Thailand)

 

 
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