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    Making espresso: no crema. What to do?

    Hello, dear experts!

    I bought a Delonghi BAR 14 espresso machine (http://www.epinions.com/hmgd-Espresso_M ... full_specs) When making an espresso, I follow the instructions provided but I get only black coffee without any crema on top of it. As this is a pump machine and as other users report getting good crema with this model, I beleive I do smth wrong.

    Could you please give some ideas on possible actions towards a proper espresso with good crema in my case

    Thanks!

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    How long does it take to make 1.5 oz of liquid? Your grind might not be fine enough...are you grinding the coffee just before you pull the shot? How old is your coffee?
    "Wine is for aging, not coffee."
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    Quote Originally Posted by topher
    How long does it take to make 1.5 oz of liquid? Your grind might not be fine enough...are you grinding the coffee just before you pull the shot? How old is your coffee?
    The coffee is bought ~1 month before. I grind it just before. It takes some 15 seconds (not more) to get out the liquid.

    Any ideas?

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    My bet would be on the grind. If the coffee is coming out that fast, chances are the grind is too coarse.

    For an inexpensive test, the next time you are in a supermarket buy a 1/4 lb of dark roasted beans from one of the bulk bins and grind it on the espresso setting on the in-store grinder. For courtesy to the person after you, set the grinder back on drip when you are done.

    You could buy pre-ground espresso means, but then you'd be out 8 to 10 bucks instead of 2 or 3. Your choices.

    Try that coffee in your machine. Chances are that you'll get some crema. Compare the grind from the store to that that you've been making with your grinder.

    Curious - what kind of grinder do you have?
    Coffee leads men to trifle away their time, scald their chops, and spend their money, all for a little base, black, thick, nasty, bitter, stinking nauseous puddle water. ~The Women's Petition Against Coffee, 1674

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    The proper tamping pressure would also cause no crema.
    Enjoy Your Coffee!
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    Oh I can get good crema with no tamping

    It's the grind, and or the freshness factor.......Or it's just not my coffee :P
    If your java tastes bitter: ASK QUESTIONS.
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    "Wine is for aging, not coffee."
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    Quote Originally Posted by javahill
    My bet would be on the grind. If the coffee is coming out that fast, chances are the grind is too coarse.
    Thanks all for the responses! I tried to grind for longer time and tamp harder. I got some crema but it had no thickness and lasted for 15 seconds. I will continue to experiment with different kinds of coffee and grinding/tamping.

    More ideas are still welcome!

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    your using a blade grinder arent you. If you are you will not be able to get a nice espresso. You need to use a burr grinder to get a consistant grind and also be able to grind it fine enough.
    "Wine is for aging, not coffee."
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    Quote Originally Posted by topher
    your using a blade grinder arent you.
    Yes, indeed, I use blade grinder. Is it really so that one cannot grind coffee properly with blade grinder even if grinding for really long time?

 

 
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