View entire thread: P8 Saeco Vending Machine for Sale
Posted by drizzt10 on 2005-05-28 08:56:30 Post Subject: P8 Saeco Vending Machine for Sale
Saeco P8 Coffee Vending Machine
Contact: 416-888-8756 / mauvuong@rogers.com
Saeco P8 Coffee Vending Machine for Sale!!!
It makes 8 different espresso style coffees including: espresso, double espresso, cappuccino, café latte, café Americano (black coffee), mochaccino, hot chocolate and flavoured cappuccinos. The machine comes complete with a floor cabinet base. Grinds each individual cup of coffee.
This coffee machine is superior to the Saeco P7 Plus Coffee Vending machine because it automatically dispense cups, and holds a total of 280 cups.
I'm asking $2500.
email: mauvuong@rogers.com
phone: 416-888-8756
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Posted by drizzt10 on 2005-05-28 08:56:30 Post Subject: P8 Saeco Vending Machine for Sale
Saeco P8 Coffee Vending Machine
Contact: 416-888-8756 / mauvuong@rogers.com
Saeco P8 Coffee Vending Machine for Sale!!!
It makes 8 different espresso style coffees including: espresso, double espresso, cappuccino, café latte, café Americano (black coffee), mochaccino, hot chocolate and flavoured cappuccinos. The machine comes complete with a floor cabinet base. Grinds each individual cup of coffee.
This coffee machine is superior to the Saeco P7 Plus Coffee Vending machine because it automatically dispense cups, and holds a total of 280 cups.
I'm asking $2500.
email: mauvuong@rogers.com
phone: 416-888-8756
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View entire thread: Amount of espresso to make?
Posted by bobneaves on 2007-01-09 00:14:06 Post Subject: Amount of espresso to make?
Let me preface this by saying that I am no means a coffee expert or intermediate. I wouldn't really call myself a newbie, because I have no interest in becoming a coffee expert. I just have a question that I have no idea where else to ask! The only coffee drink that I consume is espresso, usually from starbucks, peets, or a local coffee shop if I can find one (I do lots of traveling, so I usually go to whatever is around).
I just purchased a home espresso machine (DeLonghi EC155) nothing fancy - and I know, you can't buy any good espresso maker for less than $1,000, but this machine works for me. Out of the few home espresso makers I've tried, this one is by far the best.
My question - for making double espressos, when should I STOP the machine? Sounds like a dumb question, I know. So I put in two scoops of the ground coffee, put my espresso cup where it needs to go (my cups are 3oz cups), and fill them up to about 2/3 of the way - because one espresso shot is 1oz, correct? So I should fill the 3oz cups 2/3 of the way for a double espresso, correct? When I do this, it doesn't seem to produce quite as much espresso as if I were to get a double espresso from a coffee shop, but I could be wrong. My fears are that if I fill it up too much, it will be more watered down that it should be, or if I don't fill it enough that I'm not only being wasteful, but not getting a full double espresso.
Once again, sorry for my newbie-ism.
Thanks!
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Posted by bobneaves on 2007-01-09 00:14:06 Post Subject: Amount of espresso to make?
Let me preface this by saying that I am no means a coffee expert or intermediate. I wouldn't really call myself a newbie, because I have no interest in becoming a coffee expert. I just have a question that I have no idea where else to ask! The only coffee drink that I consume is espresso, usually from starbucks, peets, or a local coffee shop if I can find one (I do lots of traveling, so I usually go to whatever is around).
I just purchased a home espresso machine (DeLonghi EC155) nothing fancy - and I know, you can't buy any good espresso maker for less than $1,000, but this machine works for me. Out of the few home espresso makers I've tried, this one is by far the best.
My question - for making double espressos, when should I STOP the machine? Sounds like a dumb question, I know. So I put in two scoops of the ground coffee, put my espresso cup where it needs to go (my cups are 3oz cups), and fill them up to about 2/3 of the way - because one espresso shot is 1oz, correct? So I should fill the 3oz cups 2/3 of the way for a double espresso, correct? When I do this, it doesn't seem to produce quite as much espresso as if I were to get a double espresso from a coffee shop, but I could be wrong. My fears are that if I fill it up too much, it will be more watered down that it should be, or if I don't fill it enough that I'm not only being wasteful, but not getting a full double espresso.
Once again, sorry for my newbie-ism.
Thanks!
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View entire thread: question about Saeco Incanto Sirius
Posted by jdammand on 2005-06-17 13:42:39 Post Subject: question about Saeco Incanto Sirius
Hi,
I just got a Saeco Incanto Sirius and have a question about making a double espresso. If I want a double espresso or a double latte, is it best to press 1 small coffee twice? I've tried using the medium setting and it doesn't seem to come out right (too weak).
Thanks
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Posted by jdammand on 2005-06-17 13:42:39 Post Subject: question about Saeco Incanto Sirius
Hi,
I just got a Saeco Incanto Sirius and have a question about making a double espresso. If I want a double espresso or a double latte, is it best to press 1 small coffee twice? I've tried using the medium setting and it doesn't seem to come out right (too weak).
Thanks
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View entire thread: railway coffee/nestle coffee houses south africa
Posted by cindy on 2005-02-21 07:36:46 Post Subject: railway coffee/nestle coffee houses south africa
heres a nice one --->not made for anyone that would like to loose a few extra pounds.
1 X double espresso
200ml hot froth
1 tablespoon of condensed milk.
serve in a tall glass mug, add condensed milk and top off with the froth.
put the coffee in a milk jug and serve with a ginger snap.
the person drinking it can then add the amount of coffee that they would want....its absolutely brilliant and a hit if you want to impress sum1 special.
let me know.
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Posted by cindy on 2005-02-21 07:36:46 Post Subject: railway coffee/nestle coffee houses south africa
heres a nice one --->not made for anyone that would like to loose a few extra pounds.
1 X double espresso
200ml hot froth
1 tablespoon of condensed milk.
serve in a tall glass mug, add condensed milk and top off with the froth.
put the coffee in a milk jug and serve with a ginger snap.
the person drinking it can then add the amount of coffee that they would want....its absolutely brilliant and a hit if you want to impress sum1 special.
let me know.
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View entire thread: Help!! Get Coffee from an Espresso Machine ?!?
Posted by Frenzel on 2008-03-02 15:42:18 Post Subject: Coffee
Hey AayJay,
The official way to make an americano is;
add the hot water water first.
Then pull a normal or double espresso. (depending on strength)
When you do it this way you''ll have a nice cream layer on top of the coffee.
Good luck
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Posted by Frenzel on 2008-03-02 15:42:18 Post Subject: Coffee
Hey AayJay,
The official way to make an americano is;
add the hot water water first.
Then pull a normal or double espresso. (depending on strength)
When you do it this way you''ll have a nice cream layer on top of the coffee.
Good luck
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View entire thread: Upgrading Questions
Posted by Noonievut on 2007-02-28 08:17:07 Post Subject: Upgrading Questions
I know that some time in the future I'm going to upgrade both my machine and the grinder, whether separately or at the same time (i.e. I've seen deals on the Rancilio syliva/rocky combo with base). I don't know what I want but was hoping that there is a guide out there to help one sort this out???
I have an inexpensive Breville espresso machine and Krups grinder. With fresh roasted coffee and improvements to my dosing/tamping skills, I'm getting all I can out of these machines.
My current use is a double espresso or macchiato each week night, and 2 to 3 drinks each day on the weekend. I'm usually only making drinks for myself, but once a month we'll have someone over who would like a cappuccino or espresso (up to 3 people including me at the most). I don't really have time to clean the machine after each use, but I do and at the same time piss off my wife. I would have a drink in the morning if it didn't take much time (prep/brew/clean is too much for the morning for me).
I don't have a budget per say, but my current set-up cost $250 Canadian, so I don't think I'll increase my budget 10X over, but maybe to around $1,000 (either spaced out with 2 separate purchases or one leap).
I'm not an espresso expert, meaning I don't need the best shot in the world every time...heck I'm fairly happy with my current shots.
Anyway, I know it's a long post but I would appreciate any links/tips.
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Posted by Noonievut on 2007-02-28 08:17:07 Post Subject: Upgrading Questions
I know that some time in the future I'm going to upgrade both my machine and the grinder, whether separately or at the same time (i.e. I've seen deals on the Rancilio syliva/rocky combo with base). I don't know what I want but was hoping that there is a guide out there to help one sort this out???
I have an inexpensive Breville espresso machine and Krups grinder. With fresh roasted coffee and improvements to my dosing/tamping skills, I'm getting all I can out of these machines.
My current use is a double espresso or macchiato each week night, and 2 to 3 drinks each day on the weekend. I'm usually only making drinks for myself, but once a month we'll have someone over who would like a cappuccino or espresso (up to 3 people including me at the most). I don't really have time to clean the machine after each use, but I do and at the same time piss off my wife. I would have a drink in the morning if it didn't take much time (prep/brew/clean is too much for the morning for me).
I don't have a budget per say, but my current set-up cost $250 Canadian, so I don't think I'll increase my budget 10X over, but maybe to around $1,000 (either spaced out with 2 separate purchases or one leap).
I'm not an espresso expert, meaning I don't need the best shot in the world every time...heck I'm fairly happy with my current shots.
Anyway, I know it's a long post but I would appreciate any links/tips.
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View entire thread: Oi you fergat your drink!!
Posted by topher on 2005-08-02 06:44:33 Post Subject: Oi you fergat your drink!!
I went to a coffee shop in a mall the other day. I was waiting in line to order. The barista behind the counter was ringing up the customer before me as he asked me if I wanted my usual double espresso. I said no I wanted to get a regular with some ice. The lady paid and snapped at the barista, "where is my latte?!" He followed with, "you didn't order one" which I can attest to, seeing that I was listening to her annoying accent. She said yes I did...but you didn't hear me cuz you where too busy talking to him! As she walked away she forgot her grandsons drink.....so in her accent I said...OI! You fergat your drink....guess you where too busy giving these kids a hard time.....oh boy did that piss her off!! Made the baristas day...they paid for my coffee and thanked me. I went back a couple hours later and it turns out after I left she asked if I worked there or in the mall somewhere...they said no...we don't even know him...which is true...I go there about once a month when I am in Tampa.
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Posted by topher on 2005-08-02 06:44:33 Post Subject: Oi you fergat your drink!!
I went to a coffee shop in a mall the other day. I was waiting in line to order. The barista behind the counter was ringing up the customer before me as he asked me if I wanted my usual double espresso. I said no I wanted to get a regular with some ice. The lady paid and snapped at the barista, "where is my latte?!" He followed with, "you didn't order one" which I can attest to, seeing that I was listening to her annoying accent. She said yes I did...but you didn't hear me cuz you where too busy talking to him! As she walked away she forgot her grandsons drink.....so in her accent I said...OI! You fergat your drink....guess you where too busy giving these kids a hard time.....oh boy did that piss her off!! Made the baristas day...they paid for my coffee and thanked me. I went back a couple hours later and it turns out after I left she asked if I worked there or in the mall somewhere...they said no...we don't even know him...which is true...I go there about once a month when I am in Tampa.
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View entire thread: Recommend a Single or Double Cup Machine???
Posted by GraymanSA on 2006-10-04 15:04:26 Post Subject:
Hi, I am new to this site, but I am Coffee MAD, I recently bought a machine by Mellerware, I took it home and had endless problems, the machine leaked, the measures were inconsistant, it was very noisy and it produced very little Crema, I was very disappointed, anyway I went to a Home Fair Expo and met up with a man who was selling SPADA coffee machines, fully automatic, he made me a double espresso, it was fantastic, thick Crema and the taste was exceptional, I bought the top of the range machine, it cost me R 7500,00 which would convert to roughly $ 1000,00, it came with 2lbs of SPADA espresso beans and he threw in a couple of packets of SPADA biscotti, which were also delightful.
They delivered the machine, set it up for me and I am really really happy with my SPADA machine.
The machine comes from Switzerland, and I reccommend this product, it is top class, if you can find this machine where you are then you cant go wrong.
Since purchasing my SPADA machine the Mellerware machine has also for some unknown reason started to work perfectly, Machine ENVY???? I dont know, but it is very strange, so now when I entertain friends for some pick-me-up espresso I have two machines to work with, they both do two cups, so thats very convienient.
Anyway thats my story, I hope that you find that perfect machine, I dont know how I managed all those years going to coffee shops for my fix, it is best to make your own, you decide the strength and you know what beans are going into your coffee.
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Posted by GraymanSA on 2006-10-04 15:04:26 Post Subject:
Hi, I am new to this site, but I am Coffee MAD, I recently bought a machine by Mellerware, I took it home and had endless problems, the machine leaked, the measures were inconsistant, it was very noisy and it produced very little Crema, I was very disappointed, anyway I went to a Home Fair Expo and met up with a man who was selling SPADA coffee machines, fully automatic, he made me a double espresso, it was fantastic, thick Crema and the taste was exceptional, I bought the top of the range machine, it cost me R 7500,00 which would convert to roughly $ 1000,00, it came with 2lbs of SPADA espresso beans and he threw in a couple of packets of SPADA biscotti, which were also delightful.
They delivered the machine, set it up for me and I am really really happy with my SPADA machine.
The machine comes from Switzerland, and I reccommend this product, it is top class, if you can find this machine where you are then you cant go wrong.
Since purchasing my SPADA machine the Mellerware machine has also for some unknown reason started to work perfectly, Machine ENVY???? I dont know, but it is very strange, so now when I entertain friends for some pick-me-up espresso I have two machines to work with, they both do two cups, so thats very convienient.
Anyway thats my story, I hope that you find that perfect machine, I dont know how I managed all those years going to coffee shops for my fix, it is best to make your own, you decide the strength and you know what beans are going into your coffee.
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View entire thread: Blending sm amts of coffee for grinding
Posted by topher on 2005-05-24 03:15:06 Post Subject:
14 grams for a double espresso
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Posted by topher on 2005-05-24 03:15:06 Post Subject:
14 grams for a double espresso
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View entire thread: cubano
Posted by Anonymous on 2004-04-06 00:08:09 Post Subject: cubano
I have been drinking a beverage that was introduced to me as Cubano (sp?). It is a double espresso with a packet of raw sugar in the extraction basket. The process seems to make a smoother beverage with a nice sweet taste. Can anyone advise if this is the correct name?
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Posted by Anonymous on 2004-04-06 00:08:09 Post Subject: cubano
I have been drinking a beverage that was introduced to me as Cubano (sp?). It is a double espresso with a packet of raw sugar in the extraction basket. The process seems to make a smoother beverage with a nice sweet taste. Can anyone advise if this is the correct name?
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View entire thread: Difference between cafe latte and latte?
Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2005-03-04 14:05:15 Post Subject:
12 ounce caffè latte according to SCAA:
9.5 ounces of steamed milk, double espresso and a quarter inch of foam.
In Italy, ask for latte will get you a glass of milk; in the US, latte is the same as caffè latte. A good latte is essentailly espresso flavored milk and a bad one is crapola with defected espresso shots.
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Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2005-03-04 14:05:15 Post Subject:
12 ounce caffè latte according to SCAA:
9.5 ounces of steamed milk, double espresso and a quarter inch of foam.
In Italy, ask for latte will get you a glass of milk; in the US, latte is the same as caffè latte. A good latte is essentailly espresso flavored milk and a bad one is crapola with defected espresso shots.
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View entire thread: Caffeine O.D??
Posted by cindy on 2007-11-05 07:45:41 Post Subject:
ok davec, but check it out....this girl wasnt a coffee drinker (she didnt even drink instant) and i drink alot more than the recommended amount even before 8am, but my system is use to the amount of caffeine. on the other hand...withdrawel is just as bad.
nothing major happened to me tho, but i was on holiday with my folks about a year ago, and i reckoned it would be a good time for me to cut down on my daily intake. stupidly, instead of gradually cutting down, i just stopped drinking coffee alltogher, and by the end of the 2nd day, i was convinced that someone hit my in the head when i wasnt looking. i had the worst headache of my life that day, and i ended up staying in bed, knowing that death would come and collect me any minute. that was untill my dad pitched up in my room with a double espresso. i drank it, and less than 2hours later, i had no sign of a headache or felt as bad as i did earlier.
all im saying is that if your body is use to it....go for it. but dont try and beat someone elses record!
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Posted by cindy on 2007-11-05 07:45:41 Post Subject:
ok davec, but check it out....this girl wasnt a coffee drinker (she didnt even drink instant) and i drink alot more than the recommended amount even before 8am, but my system is use to the amount of caffeine. on the other hand...withdrawel is just as bad.
nothing major happened to me tho, but i was on holiday with my folks about a year ago, and i reckoned it would be a good time for me to cut down on my daily intake. stupidly, instead of gradually cutting down, i just stopped drinking coffee alltogher, and by the end of the 2nd day, i was convinced that someone hit my in the head when i wasnt looking. i had the worst headache of my life that day, and i ended up staying in bed, knowing that death would come and collect me any minute. that was untill my dad pitched up in my room with a double espresso. i drank it, and less than 2hours later, i had no sign of a headache or felt as bad as i did earlier.
all im saying is that if your body is use to it....go for it. but dont try and beat someone elses record!
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View entire thread: Caffeine O.D??
Posted by topher on 2007-08-14 03:21:25 Post Subject: Caffeine O.D??
Overdose drama of girl who had 14 cups of espresso
By PAUL SIMS - More by this author »
Last updated at 07:36am on 14th August 2007
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A teenage waitress overdosed on caffeine after drinking 14 shots of espresso.
Jasmine Willis, 17, could hardly breathe and was taken to hospital with a high temperature and heart palpitations.
She had drunk almost three times the recommended daily amount of caffeine in just four hours.
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Jasmine Willis was hospitalised after she drank seven double espressos
Miss Willis, a student, was working part-time out in her father Gary's recently-opened sandwich bar after sitting her GCSEs.
She began her coffee binge last Wednesday after getting only five hours' sleep the previous night.
"I decided to have a double espresso to perk me up," she said. "It did the trick so I had one after another and they seemed to be working. I felt great - as if I could take on the world."
By noon she was feeling unwell and crying and laughing uncontrollably in front of bewildered customers.
Miss Willis said: "My nerves were jangling. Tears were streaming down my face. People kept asking me if I was all right."
Her father sent her home but by the following morning she could not feel her lips and was struggling to breathe.
Miss Willis, from Stanley, County Durham, spent several hours under observation at the University Hospital of North Durham, where the caffeine overdose was diagnosed.
She said: "I was drenched and burning up and hyperventilating.
"I was having palpitations, my heart was beating so fast. I think I was going into shock".
Miss Willis is due to start her Alevels at college next month, studying law, psychology, sociology and accountancy.
She said last night: "Coffee is fine in moderation and really does pick you up, but I just overdid it. I didn't realise what could happen, so I hope other people learn from my mistake."
"I felt exhausted for days afterwards and I can't even bear the sight of coffee now".
Her father said: "Jasmine was just helping out in her holidays and had started on the 8am shift.
"She doesn't usually drink coffee at all, not even instant. But I've just had a beautiful new coffee machine installed so she thought she'd try an espresso."
The Department of Health advises people not to drink more than five single espressos or four cups of instant coffee a day.
Earlier this year scientists questioned the validity of the traditional view that caffeine can reduce the effects of tiredness and increase alertness.
The Bristol University team found that the levels of alertness among those who drank coffee were almost the same as those who had drunk none.
Coffee has been found to have some health benefits, however, Studies have suggested it can protect against the onset of Parkinson's disease and keep the mind sharp into old age.
Tea and coffee also contain a wealth of other health-boosting compounds.
A spokesman for the British Coffee Association said: "There are thousands of published studies which demonstrate clearly that moderate coffee drinking - four to five cups a day - is perfectly safe.
"Increasingly, there is evidence to suggest that there are health benefits from it. The key to any healthy, balanced diet is moderation in all things and this applies to coffee
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Posted by topher on 2007-08-14 03:21:25 Post Subject: Caffeine O.D??
Overdose drama of girl who had 14 cups of espresso
By PAUL SIMS - More by this author »
Last updated at 07:36am on 14th August 2007
Comments (3)
A teenage waitress overdosed on caffeine after drinking 14 shots of espresso.
Jasmine Willis, 17, could hardly breathe and was taken to hospital with a high temperature and heart palpitations.
She had drunk almost three times the recommended daily amount of caffeine in just four hours.
Scroll down for more...
Jasmine Willis was hospitalised after she drank seven double espressos
Miss Willis, a student, was working part-time out in her father Gary's recently-opened sandwich bar after sitting her GCSEs.
She began her coffee binge last Wednesday after getting only five hours' sleep the previous night.
"I decided to have a double espresso to perk me up," she said. "It did the trick so I had one after another and they seemed to be working. I felt great - as if I could take on the world."
By noon she was feeling unwell and crying and laughing uncontrollably in front of bewildered customers.
Miss Willis said: "My nerves were jangling. Tears were streaming down my face. People kept asking me if I was all right."
Her father sent her home but by the following morning she could not feel her lips and was struggling to breathe.
Miss Willis, from Stanley, County Durham, spent several hours under observation at the University Hospital of North Durham, where the caffeine overdose was diagnosed.
She said: "I was drenched and burning up and hyperventilating.
"I was having palpitations, my heart was beating so fast. I think I was going into shock".
Miss Willis is due to start her Alevels at college next month, studying law, psychology, sociology and accountancy.
She said last night: "Coffee is fine in moderation and really does pick you up, but I just overdid it. I didn't realise what could happen, so I hope other people learn from my mistake."
"I felt exhausted for days afterwards and I can't even bear the sight of coffee now".
Her father said: "Jasmine was just helping out in her holidays and had started on the 8am shift.
"She doesn't usually drink coffee at all, not even instant. But I've just had a beautiful new coffee machine installed so she thought she'd try an espresso."
The Department of Health advises people not to drink more than five single espressos or four cups of instant coffee a day.
Earlier this year scientists questioned the validity of the traditional view that caffeine can reduce the effects of tiredness and increase alertness.
The Bristol University team found that the levels of alertness among those who drank coffee were almost the same as those who had drunk none.
Coffee has been found to have some health benefits, however, Studies have suggested it can protect against the onset of Parkinson's disease and keep the mind sharp into old age.
Tea and coffee also contain a wealth of other health-boosting compounds.
A spokesman for the British Coffee Association said: "There are thousands of published studies which demonstrate clearly that moderate coffee drinking - four to five cups a day - is perfectly safe.
"Increasingly, there is evidence to suggest that there are health benefits from it. The key to any healthy, balanced diet is moderation in all things and this applies to coffee
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View entire thread: Examples of monthly expenses/budget and opinions
Posted by Beanster on 2006-08-10 11:03:29 Post Subject: Examples of monthly expenses/budget and opinions
I've been reading this forum about a week and read A LOT of the posts so it's kind of run together in my head now and most info I've probably found but can't find exact threads. Basically just want an example of monthly expenses such as rent, etc. This will be just a small double drive-thru. Going to try and paint a picture of the area and what I plan to do and also get opinions on if you think it would work/be a good idea.
Also startup costs. I need to try and get it done as low cost as possible for me to be able to afford it. I'm looking at a building that isn't a drive thru but looks to be about the same size as a typical double espresso drive-thru I've been seeing online and on this forum. So drive-thru windows could be built on both sides. I am guessing for the most part the inside will just need to have the equipment dropped in. It's a small half-block from a university with an enrollment of about 6,500.
This block is basically an island block that follows a busy road this building is on(with the building being on the busy street end of the block). So on one side the busy 4 lane road, the other a street that has the college on the left, the half block on the right. Both sides have apts, college oriented shops/bars/university bookstore/laundromats/burger joint etc. Also a few small offices like real estate, chiropractors, etc. No coffee shops though. Heck, there is even a roaster down the street!
There is a drive-thru Starbucks down the road though less than 5 minutes but it's more when you get to a major retail/shopping zone. Also in another direction the popular local coffeehouse(that also has a drive-thru) that is less than 5 minutes away. Service there is slow though and half the time I'll give up on waiting at the drive-thru for someone to say something and just go in. There are no other specialty coffee joints in the city except for one inside a Hastings(like having a Starbucks inside a Barnes and Noble). And the city population is 90,000.
The location was previously a tiny take out/delivery pizza shop that wasn't open long. Probably been closed a year/year and a half. I remember there was a lot of buzz about it. A lot of business from college students dropping by for a slice or 2. I remember calling a few times trying to place orders and nobody would answer and would sometimes not be willing to deliver. I think they probably closed because they were overwhelmed and maybe over their head/ill prepared. Not because of lack of business.
So I think it could be a good location. It's not a very attractive spot I wouldn't think for most businesses because I don't think much could be done with the small space. Nothing special to look at basically a rectangular wooden box with paint. I don't think people would know what to do with it. But thinking along the lines of what I plan to do I think it could work well as a drive-thru. One negative is that driving down the main road from one side you can't see it until you're driving by because a vacant taller/larger building next to it(would be just enough room between for a drive-thru lane) is pretty close to the street. But coming from the other direction you can see it from a ways off and it's the right side of the street. I do still need to do a traffic count.
Like I said I'm trying to do this relatively cheaply. So I'm figuring it will be cheaper than having a building built and putting it on a site and having to get all the plumbing/electr. etc. done. And I know people recommend getting the best site as opposed to cheapest but I do think this one would be good and very low overhead. And once I proved I was making this work I could then have an easier job of getting some good financing and opening another location that might be more profitable. Although I do think this spot could work great. I'm guessing rent would be very low for this spot. Cost of living is low here in the first place. I freak out seeing people that have to pay thousands on rent. This place may be in the low hundreds I'm guessing. I figure I won't HAVE to sell as much coffee at this location as the avg. coffee drive-thru to make money. And I don't need to get rich, If I netted 25-30k/year for myself I'd be happy. And no I don't even expect to make much money if at all the first year.
So basically with all my rambling descriptions do you think this is the type of spot that could work? And could someone project startup costs, like cheap ways of getting the equipment(leasing? remember someone mentioning the distributor gave them free equipment to work with them exclusively? and so on?). It's possible when it comes to the building I may not have to do much more than drop the equipment, paint the exterior, get signage, and pave the lot(uh, just gravel right now). Of course, no way of knowing what's up on the inside right now so that's best case I figure. So what am I missing under the best case scenario?
Then also the monthly expenses so I can get an idea of how much coffee I'd need to sell? I do plan to serve bagels and muffins in the morning in addition to the coffee. Maybe breakfast sandwiches made out of bagels and croissants. And breakfast burritos. If you serve breakfast burritos in these parts, people WILL come. Then after 11am probably paninis.
Sorry for the long-windedness! Just drank a 'grande' latte and that java jive is making my brain jump all over the place!
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Posted by Beanster on 2006-08-10 11:03:29 Post Subject: Examples of monthly expenses/budget and opinions
I've been reading this forum about a week and read A LOT of the posts so it's kind of run together in my head now and most info I've probably found but can't find exact threads. Basically just want an example of monthly expenses such as rent, etc. This will be just a small double drive-thru. Going to try and paint a picture of the area and what I plan to do and also get opinions on if you think it would work/be a good idea.
Also startup costs. I need to try and get it done as low cost as possible for me to be able to afford it. I'm looking at a building that isn't a drive thru but looks to be about the same size as a typical double espresso drive-thru I've been seeing online and on this forum. So drive-thru windows could be built on both sides. I am guessing for the most part the inside will just need to have the equipment dropped in. It's a small half-block from a university with an enrollment of about 6,500.
This block is basically an island block that follows a busy road this building is on(with the building being on the busy street end of the block). So on one side the busy 4 lane road, the other a street that has the college on the left, the half block on the right. Both sides have apts, college oriented shops/bars/university bookstore/laundromats/burger joint etc. Also a few small offices like real estate, chiropractors, etc. No coffee shops though. Heck, there is even a roaster down the street!
There is a drive-thru Starbucks down the road though less than 5 minutes but it's more when you get to a major retail/shopping zone. Also in another direction the popular local coffeehouse(that also has a drive-thru) that is less than 5 minutes away. Service there is slow though and half the time I'll give up on waiting at the drive-thru for someone to say something and just go in. There are no other specialty coffee joints in the city except for one inside a Hastings(like having a Starbucks inside a Barnes and Noble). And the city population is 90,000.
The location was previously a tiny take out/delivery pizza shop that wasn't open long. Probably been closed a year/year and a half. I remember there was a lot of buzz about it. A lot of business from college students dropping by for a slice or 2. I remember calling a few times trying to place orders and nobody would answer and would sometimes not be willing to deliver. I think they probably closed because they were overwhelmed and maybe over their head/ill prepared. Not because of lack of business.
So I think it could be a good location. It's not a very attractive spot I wouldn't think for most businesses because I don't think much could be done with the small space. Nothing special to look at basically a rectangular wooden box with paint. I don't think people would know what to do with it. But thinking along the lines of what I plan to do I think it could work well as a drive-thru. One negative is that driving down the main road from one side you can't see it until you're driving by because a vacant taller/larger building next to it(would be just enough room between for a drive-thru lane) is pretty close to the street. But coming from the other direction you can see it from a ways off and it's the right side of the street. I do still need to do a traffic count.
Like I said I'm trying to do this relatively cheaply. So I'm figuring it will be cheaper than having a building built and putting it on a site and having to get all the plumbing/electr. etc. done. And I know people recommend getting the best site as opposed to cheapest but I do think this one would be good and very low overhead. And once I proved I was making this work I could then have an easier job of getting some good financing and opening another location that might be more profitable. Although I do think this spot could work great. I'm guessing rent would be very low for this spot. Cost of living is low here in the first place. I freak out seeing people that have to pay thousands on rent. This place may be in the low hundreds I'm guessing. I figure I won't HAVE to sell as much coffee at this location as the avg. coffee drive-thru to make money. And I don't need to get rich, If I netted 25-30k/year for myself I'd be happy. And no I don't even expect to make much money if at all the first year.
So basically with all my rambling descriptions do you think this is the type of spot that could work? And could someone project startup costs, like cheap ways of getting the equipment(leasing? remember someone mentioning the distributor gave them free equipment to work with them exclusively? and so on?). It's possible when it comes to the building I may not have to do much more than drop the equipment, paint the exterior, get signage, and pave the lot(uh, just gravel right now). Of course, no way of knowing what's up on the inside right now so that's best case I figure. So what am I missing under the best case scenario?
Then also the monthly expenses so I can get an idea of how much coffee I'd need to sell? I do plan to serve bagels and muffins in the morning in addition to the coffee. Maybe breakfast sandwiches made out of bagels and croissants. And breakfast burritos. If you serve breakfast burritos in these parts, people WILL come. Then after 11am probably paninis.
Sorry for the long-windedness! Just drank a 'grande' latte and that java jive is making my brain jump all over the place!
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Posted by MrBox on 2006-07-12 10:58:46 Post Subject: Espresso Vodka
Van Gogh ( an expensive vodka)
makes a double espresso vodka
I want to save my money and get this
its about 30 for a botttle I think.
anyone try it?
JM
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Posted by MrBox on 2006-07-12 10:58:46 Post Subject: Espresso Vodka
Van Gogh ( an expensive vodka)
makes a double espresso vodka
I want to save my money and get this
its about 30 for a botttle I think.
anyone try it?
JM
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Posted by boodles on 2006-06-29 17:23:18 Post Subject: The Correct Espresso Cups
I get very irratated here in South Africa when i visit coffee shops and they give me my espresso in a .. regular coffee cup. It makes my blood boil.
My question, just to confirm, should a single/double espresso be served ONLY in those... espresso, small cups (not sure what they are called).
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Posted by boodles on 2006-06-29 17:23:18 Post Subject: The Correct Espresso Cups
I get very irratated here in South Africa when i visit coffee shops and they give me my espresso in a .. regular coffee cup. It makes my blood boil.
My question, just to confirm, should a single/double espresso be served ONLY in those... espresso, small cups (not sure what they are called).
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Posted by Brotherhood of the Bean on 2006-07-17 22:43:05 Post Subject:
Most demoralizing espresso experience was when I "thought" we had time to sit down in the shop and enjoy ourselves, so I ordered a double espresso. My wife however had other ideas (errands) and we had to change the order to go.
Drinking espresso from a styrofoam cup was the absolute worst.
I don't recommend it to anyone.
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Posted by Brotherhood of the Bean on 2006-07-17 22:43:05 Post Subject:
Most demoralizing espresso experience was when I "thought" we had time to sit down in the shop and enjoy ourselves, so I ordered a double espresso. My wife however had other ideas (errands) and we had to change the order to go.
Drinking espresso from a styrofoam cup was the absolute worst.
I don't recommend it to anyone.
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Posted by mrgnomer on 2006-07-08 06:45:47 Post Subject: Re: The Correct Espresso Cups
I get very irratated here in South Africa when i visit coffee shops and they give me my espresso in a .. regular coffee cup. It makes my blood boil.
My question, just to confirm, should a single/double espresso be served ONLY in those... espresso, small cups (not sure what they are called).
Best cups, as far as I know, are round bottomed, dense or thick walled and hold about 2oz. Heat retention is one of the goals with good espresso. Espresso is delicate and should be enjoyed right away in a preheated cup that keeps it at a good temperature to preserve body and crema.
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Posted by mrgnomer on 2006-07-08 06:45:47 Post Subject: Re: The Correct Espresso Cups
I get very irratated here in South Africa when i visit coffee shops and they give me my espresso in a .. regular coffee cup. It makes my blood boil.
My question, just to confirm, should a single/double espresso be served ONLY in those... espresso, small cups (not sure what they are called).
Best cups, as far as I know, are round bottomed, dense or thick walled and hold about 2oz. Heat retention is one of the goals with good espresso. Espresso is delicate and should be enjoyed right away in a preheated cup that keeps it at a good temperature to preserve body and crema.
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Posted by Alun_evans on 2006-07-18 20:28:57 Post Subject:
Right on J.M! A word of warning...forget about ordering an espresso in Indonesia...a 8oz cup for a double espresso here maybe too small!
The overwhelmong problem here is we are still very much at the beginning slope of specialty coffee. The first day Starbucks opened here some 3 years ago, the knowledge of how a specific espresso/espresso based drink name corelated to what you got served was nil. There were some interesting customer relate complaints to espresso itself . "Pellet" (or stingy in English) was often muttered when the espresso came out. Often the cutomers carried the espresso demitasse over to the milk counter, grabbed a paper cup, added 500ml of milk- "THATS an espresso!"
Drives me crazy!
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Posted by Alun_evans on 2006-07-18 20:28:57 Post Subject:
Right on J.M! A word of warning...forget about ordering an espresso in Indonesia...a 8oz cup for a double espresso here maybe too small!
The overwhelmong problem here is we are still very much at the beginning slope of specialty coffee. The first day Starbucks opened here some 3 years ago, the knowledge of how a specific espresso/espresso based drink name corelated to what you got served was nil. There were some interesting customer relate complaints to espresso itself . "Pellet" (or stingy in English) was often muttered when the espresso came out. Often the cutomers carried the espresso demitasse over to the milk counter, grabbed a paper cup, added 500ml of milk- "THATS an espresso!" Drives me crazy!
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Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2005-06-20 11:13:12 Post Subject:
Shots of espresso per lb. of coffee 62 (11 cents per shot)
Not disagreeing, but many shops elect to always pull double shots even if the order calls for a single espresso. So the break down could be different if you decided to go this route.
1 pound = 450 grams
2 shots + waste = 14 grams + 2 grams = 16 grams/shot
450 grams / 16 grams/shot = 28 shot
at $7.00 per pound, cost of espresso per order = $7/28 = $0.25
If you add constant espresso grind adjustment, your double espresso shots cost more like $0.26 to $0.27.
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Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2005-06-20 11:13:12 Post Subject:
Shots of espresso per lb. of coffee 62 (11 cents per shot)
Not disagreeing, but many shops elect to always pull double shots even if the order calls for a single espresso. So the break down could be different if you decided to go this route.
1 pound = 450 grams
2 shots + waste = 14 grams + 2 grams = 16 grams/shot
450 grams / 16 grams/shot = 28 shot
at $7.00 per pound, cost of espresso per order = $7/28 = $0.25
If you add constant espresso grind adjustment, your double espresso shots cost more like $0.26 to $0.27.
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Posted by celement on 2005-06-21 00:20:19 Post Subject: always pull doubles
Shots of espresso per lb. of coffee 62 (11 cents per shot)
Not disagreeing, but many shops elect to always pull double shots even if the order calls for a single espresso. So the break down could be different if you decided to go this route.
1 pound = 450 grams
2 shots + waste = 14 grams + 2 grams = 16 grams/shot
450 grams / 16 grams/shot = 28 shot
at $7.00 per pound, cost of espresso per order = $7/28 = $0.25
If you add constant espresso grind adjustment, your double espresso shots cost more like $0.26 to $0.27.
We always pull doubles but if we don't immediately use the extra shot it gets put into the cooler for cold drinks...its not lost so I wouldn't apply the cost of it too the single shot drink...
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Posted by celement on 2005-06-21 00:20:19 Post Subject: always pull doubles
Shots of espresso per lb. of coffee 62 (11 cents per shot)
Not disagreeing, but many shops elect to always pull double shots even if the order calls for a single espresso. So the break down could be different if you decided to go this route.
1 pound = 450 grams
2 shots + waste = 14 grams + 2 grams = 16 grams/shot
450 grams / 16 grams/shot = 28 shot
at $7.00 per pound, cost of espresso per order = $7/28 = $0.25
If you add constant espresso grind adjustment, your double espresso shots cost more like $0.26 to $0.27.
We always pull doubles but if we don't immediately use the extra shot it gets put into the cooler for cold drinks...its not lost so I wouldn't apply the cost of it too the single shot drink...
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Posted by Comfy Place on 2006-09-30 12:19:28 Post Subject: Drink Sizes, etc.
For us, we only have a single menu. Most of what we have is the "traditional" drink types that you could almost anywhere. The other few would be the "Americanized" versions, such as the cappuccinos. We have yet to have someone request a "true" cappuccino, where it is 1/3, 1/3, 1/3. I've heard the best description of the "Americanized" cappuccino somewhere: a latte with foam on top. I have nothing against either version, its just that most people in my neck of the woods don't know what a "true" cappuccino is supposed to be like, so I don't even have it on the menu.
Similarly, we offer flavored coffees because people like them and want them. Could one get a better coffee if they used syrup flavors instead? You bet. But again, most people don't know that; its an educational thing. This just means that one should host an educational night at their shop to help bring up the level of education regarding coffee! We do offer our customers a choice of having their drink in a ceramic cup if they are staying, otherwise the default is a togo cup. This is regardless of the drink; if they get a double espresso to go, they'll get it in our smallest cup, a 12oz.. We don't have enough interest at this point in just espressos to warrant getting special small togo cups for them. Traditionally, they should be in ceramic and be drunk while sitting, but this is America, so....
I think I've hit on your questions/points, but if not, let me know and I'll try again.
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Posted by Comfy Place on 2006-09-30 12:19:28 Post Subject: Drink Sizes, etc.
For us, we only have a single menu. Most of what we have is the "traditional" drink types that you could almost anywhere. The other few would be the "Americanized" versions, such as the cappuccinos. We have yet to have someone request a "true" cappuccino, where it is 1/3, 1/3, 1/3. I've heard the best description of the "Americanized" cappuccino somewhere: a latte with foam on top. I have nothing against either version, its just that most people in my neck of the woods don't know what a "true" cappuccino is supposed to be like, so I don't even have it on the menu.
Similarly, we offer flavored coffees because people like them and want them. Could one get a better coffee if they used syrup flavors instead? You bet. But again, most people don't know that; its an educational thing. This just means that one should host an educational night at their shop to help bring up the level of education regarding coffee! We do offer our customers a choice of having their drink in a ceramic cup if they are staying, otherwise the default is a togo cup. This is regardless of the drink; if they get a double espresso to go, they'll get it in our smallest cup, a 12oz.. We don't have enough interest at this point in just espressos to warrant getting special small togo cups for them. Traditionally, they should be in ceramic and be drunk while sitting, but this is America, so....
I think I've hit on your questions/points, but if not, let me know and I'll try again.
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Posted by Davec on 2007-07-31 17:43:26 Post Subject:
Bit of a misnomer, since there's no steamed milk. On second thought, who says the 'latte' in espresso latte has to be steamed?
Anyway, one of the benefits of escaping the UK over the summer, is that you get a real summer. And this summer was one to escape, as many of you are aware. What with 30 and 32 degrees today and forecast for the rest of the week, I got to reading the iced-espresso drink threads going on our american bretheren forums, and decided, what the hell. Had no chocolate sauce to speak of, so I dribbled some honey into the bottom of a wide glass beaker, something that you wouldn't do too badly pouring scotch into. Pour a double espresso onto that, so as to melt the honey. This is the first time I've pulled a shot into an unheated cup. Wince a little looking at how good the pour looked and wonder if youre wasting such a great looking shot. Add 3 or four large ice cubes. Top up with whole milk, and stir carefully.
Delicious. Strong (not too much milk). Cold. Lovely.
Especially when its 30 degrees outside and clear skies.
(Sorry UK/netherlands guys )
The above was posted on my forum recently and it looks a winner to me.
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Posted by Davec on 2007-07-31 17:43:26 Post Subject:
Bit of a misnomer, since there's no steamed milk. On second thought, who says the 'latte' in espresso latte has to be steamed?
Anyway, one of the benefits of escaping the UK over the summer, is that you get a real summer. And this summer was one to escape, as many of you are aware. What with 30 and 32 degrees today and forecast for the rest of the week, I got to reading the iced-espresso drink threads going on our american bretheren forums, and decided, what the hell. Had no chocolate sauce to speak of, so I dribbled some honey into the bottom of a wide glass beaker, something that you wouldn't do too badly pouring scotch into. Pour a double espresso onto that, so as to melt the honey. This is the first time I've pulled a shot into an unheated cup. Wince a little looking at how good the pour looked and wonder if youre wasting such a great looking shot. Add 3 or four large ice cubes. Top up with whole milk, and stir carefully.
Delicious. Strong (not too much milk). Cold. Lovely.
Especially when its 30 degrees outside and clear skies.
(Sorry UK/netherlands guys
)The above was posted on my forum recently and it looks a winner to me.
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Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2007-02-26 13:56:44 Post Subject:
Here are drinks cost assuming beans at $6 a pound
For espresso
1 pound = 450 grams
double shot = 14 grams
450grams/14 grams = 32 double espresso
$6/32 = $0.19
factor in 10% waste, and you cost is $0.21. If you use a triple basket, multiple $0.21 by 1.5 and your cost is $0.31.
For drip
1 pound makes about 250 oz of coffee.
250 oz of coffee equals 25 cups of coffee assuming 12 oz cup and 2 oz room for milk.
$6/25 = $0.24. add $0.06 for 2 oz of milk, your cost is $0.30. Factor in 10% waste, and you are at $0.33.
cup, lid and sleeve run about $0.15. Add 1 cent for Napkins, sugar and stirrer. Your COGS is about 50 cents. If you sell it at $1.50, you are at 33%.
For latte and cappuccino COGS, add cost of 8 oz milk and syrups if any, and you can those COGS.
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Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2007-02-26 13:56:44 Post Subject:
Here are drinks cost assuming beans at $6 a pound
For espresso
1 pound = 450 grams
double shot = 14 grams
450grams/14 grams = 32 double espresso
$6/32 = $0.19
factor in 10% waste, and you cost is $0.21. If you use a triple basket, multiple $0.21 by 1.5 and your cost is $0.31.
For drip
1 pound makes about 250 oz of coffee.
250 oz of coffee equals 25 cups of coffee assuming 12 oz cup and 2 oz room for milk.
$6/25 = $0.24. add $0.06 for 2 oz of milk, your cost is $0.30. Factor in 10% waste, and you are at $0.33.
cup, lid and sleeve run about $0.15. Add 1 cent for Napkins, sugar and stirrer. Your COGS is about 50 cents. If you sell it at $1.50, you are at 33%.
For latte and cappuccino COGS, add cost of 8 oz milk and syrups if any, and you can those COGS.
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Posted by topher on 2003-09-14 21:06:12 Post Subject:
welll.....don't put your last dime on it...save it for freshly prepared coffee(plus it wont sell)...buy the way went to a really kewl new coffee shop today..see even when I am not working I do go out every once in a while to pay for coffee! Had a double espresso and my friend had a mocha...wife and kid where happy with a cookie! To be honest the coffee at this place isn't exactly the best...but the atmosphere rocks!!! It has such a warm feeling! Sorry now I am rambling...no more coffee for me..pass the scotch please!
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Posted by topher on 2003-09-14 21:06:12 Post Subject:
welll.....don't put your last dime on it...save it for freshly prepared coffee(plus it wont sell)...buy the way went to a really kewl new coffee shop today..see even when I am not working I do go out every once in a while to pay for coffee! Had a double espresso and my friend had a mocha...wife and kid where happy with a cookie! To be honest the coffee at this place isn't exactly the best...but the atmosphere rocks!!! It has such a warm feeling! Sorry now I am rambling...no more coffee for me..pass the scotch please!
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Posted by Heidi on 2008-06-08 13:15:47 Post Subject:
Pur iced coffee is syrup of your choice and double espresso poured over into a coffee cup. Fill the cup up with milk and put into a shaker with ice. Shake several times and pour into a glass filled with ice. Voila, one of our most popular frinks during the summer season.
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Posted by Heidi on 2008-06-08 13:15:47 Post Subject:
Pur iced coffee is syrup of your choice and double espresso poured over into a coffee cup. Fill the cup up with milk and put into a shaker with ice. Shake several times and pour into a glass filled with ice. Voila, one of our most popular frinks during the summer season.
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Posted by JohnB on 2008-06-08 15:46:47 Post Subject:
Pur iced coffee is syrup of your choice and double espresso poured over into a coffee cup. Fill the cup up with milk and put into a shaker with ice. Shake several times and pour into a glass filled with ice. Voila, one of our most popular frinks during the summer season.
Sounds more like a cold Latte! Why add syrup?
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Posted by JohnB on 2008-06-08 15:46:47 Post Subject:
Pur iced coffee is syrup of your choice and double espresso poured over into a coffee cup. Fill the cup up with milk and put into a shaker with ice. Shake several times and pour into a glass filled with ice. Voila, one of our most popular frinks during the summer season.
Sounds more like a cold Latte! Why add syrup?
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Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2006-04-04 13:40:29 Post Subject:
strongest in flavor or in caffeine? With robusta you will get twice the caffeine vs arabica, but robusta taste pretty unpleasant. If you want to try robusta, Paradise Roasters have some top quality Indian 100% Robusta espresso. It's not for me, it's not recommanded for dripped. But assuming you are in US, it beats getting coffee from Australia.
If you want the strongest in flavor, brew any good freshly roasted coffee with more coffee and less water. Or try an Americano, better yet try a double espresso from a good coffee shop - now that's good stuff.
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Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2006-04-04 13:40:29 Post Subject:
strongest in flavor or in caffeine? With robusta you will get twice the caffeine vs arabica, but robusta taste pretty unpleasant. If you want to try robusta, Paradise Roasters have some top quality Indian 100% Robusta espresso. It's not for me, it's not recommanded for dripped. But assuming you are in US, it beats getting coffee from Australia.
If you want the strongest in flavor, brew any good freshly roasted coffee with more coffee and less water. Or try an Americano, better yet try a double espresso from a good coffee shop - now that's good stuff.
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Posted by javagirl81 on 2003-09-12 10:17:26 Post Subject:
Completely. It's scary to think what would happen if I didn't go and get my double espresso in the morning. Not pretty.
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Posted by javagirl81 on 2003-09-12 10:17:26 Post Subject:
Completely. It's scary to think what would happen if I didn't go and get my double espresso in the morning. Not pretty.
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Posted by amCoffeepmTea on 2005-03-25 11:22:40 Post Subject: Espresso
I don't know if this is what you were asking, but these numbers came from about.com's coffee section:
Amount of caffeine:
Double espresso (2oz) 45-100 mg
Brewed coffee (8 oz) 60-120 mg
There's a caffeine comparison chart here: http://coffeetea.about.com/library/blcaffeine.htm
And these numbers, came from http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/caffeine/caffeine_info1.shtml#2
Espresso (1.5-2 oz) 100 mg
Percolated (7 oz) 140 mg
Drip (7 oz) 115-175 mg
The numbers confuse me. Wouldn't you think a double espresso would have more caffeine in it than a "regular" espresso? Weird.
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Posted by amCoffeepmTea on 2005-03-25 11:22:40 Post Subject: Espresso
I don't know if this is what you were asking, but these numbers came from about.com's coffee section:
Amount of caffeine:
Double espresso (2oz) 45-100 mg
Brewed coffee (8 oz) 60-120 mg
There's a caffeine comparison chart here: http://coffeetea.about.com/library/blcaffeine.htm
And these numbers, came from http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/caffeine/caffeine_info1.shtml#2
Espresso (1.5-2 oz) 100 mg
Percolated (7 oz) 140 mg
Drip (7 oz) 115-175 mg
The numbers confuse me. Wouldn't you think a double espresso would have more caffeine in it than a "regular" espresso? Weird.
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Posted by mrgnomer on 2006-04-24 17:25:17 Post Subject:
How do the manual grinders/mills work for making espresso?
I have a tight budget and I dont really want a blade grinder.
Not all manual grinders are created equal. The burrs need to be hard and sharp and the adjustment needs to be precise and fine to ensure the burrs stay parallel to one another for an even grind.
Zassenhaus made a good grinder but they're hard to find these days. It can grind fine for espresso but the finer you grind with a manual, the more you've got to crank. I think to grind for a double espresso with a Zassenhaus would take up to 200 turns. That's a couple of minutes.
A good manual grinder is much less expensive than a good commercial quality burr grinder, though. Good luck.
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Posted by mrgnomer on 2006-04-24 17:25:17 Post Subject:
How do the manual grinders/mills work for making espresso?
I have a tight budget and I dont really want a blade grinder.
Not all manual grinders are created equal. The burrs need to be hard and sharp and the adjustment needs to be precise and fine to ensure the burrs stay parallel to one another for an even grind.
Zassenhaus made a good grinder but they're hard to find these days. It can grind fine for espresso but the finer you grind with a manual, the more you've got to crank. I think to grind for a double espresso with a Zassenhaus would take up to 200 turns. That's a couple of minutes.
A good manual grinder is much less expensive than a good commercial quality burr grinder, though. Good luck.
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View entire thread: How much coffee do you drink in one day?
Posted by Farquard on 2003-12-07 17:31:59 Post Subject: Really wonder what people drink
Here in southern Oregon, you can't drive ten blocks before encountering a coffee espresso outlet. Same is true in Washington and California.
What do the majority drink? Straight espresso, latte, cappocino, or those super goofed up sweetened drinks (one is called "Snickers"
When I stop at one and order a double espresso, they look at me like I'm crazy.
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Posted by Farquard on 2003-12-07 17:31:59 Post Subject: Really wonder what people drink
Here in southern Oregon, you can't drive ten blocks before encountering a coffee espresso outlet. Same is true in Washington and California.
What do the majority drink? Straight espresso, latte, cappocino, or those super goofed up sweetened drinks (one is called "Snickers"
When I stop at one and order a double espresso, they look at me like I'm crazy.
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View entire thread: color of crema and small dots on it???
Posted by muzoon on 2007-03-07 06:57:59 Post Subject:
we make at 24-27 sec. and it allways stays in 20-30 sec. tamping is normally arround 20 kilo and is quite consistent. amount of ground coffee is approximately 15-17 g for double espresso. we have tryed different grinders and different espresso machines and with different people preparing the drink but the end result is the same. at the same time when trying other espressos with the same techniques and equipment the result is crema without dots.
but do you know anything about color of crema???
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Posted by muzoon on 2007-03-07 06:57:59 Post Subject:
we make at 24-27 sec. and it allways stays in 20-30 sec. tamping is normally arround 20 kilo and is quite consistent. amount of ground coffee is approximately 15-17 g for double espresso. we have tryed different grinders and different espresso machines and with different people preparing the drink but the end result is the same. at the same time when trying other espressos with the same techniques and equipment the result is crema without dots.
but do you know anything about color of crema???
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View entire thread: Best Drink Menu for a shop?
Posted by pstam on 2005-02-05 12:05:09 Post Subject:
Haha, yeah, it'd be good if someone would make them for me. Give me some free time. I can't find that thread you mentioned...mind pointing me to it? Thanks.
If you mention about the coffee drinks, I would provide you with our menu for it. It is from Kaffa Cafe, a brand name of our coffee business for China.
Classical Coffee
Daily's coffee, one of your drip coffee or a specified one
possible choices of other drip coffee
espresso, as standard
espresso double
espresso ristretto
hammerhead
Caffe Americano
Flavoured Coffee
Caffe Latte
Cappuccino
Caffe con Panne, or Melange
Coffee Mocha
Caffe Romano
and more for other choices
Iced Coffee
Kaffa Ice-coffee, special on by Kaffa Cafe (you can make your own)
Iced Caffe Latte
Iced Cappuccino
Iced Coffee Mocha
Kaffa Ice-mandarin Coffee
and more for other choices
Besides coffee, you can put anything more you want.
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Posted by pstam on 2005-02-05 12:05:09 Post Subject:
Haha, yeah, it'd be good if someone would make them for me. Give me some free time. I can't find that thread you mentioned...mind pointing me to it? Thanks.
If you mention about the coffee drinks, I would provide you with our menu for it. It is from Kaffa Cafe, a brand name of our coffee business for China.
Classical Coffee
Daily's coffee, one of your drip coffee or a specified one
possible choices of other drip coffee
espresso, as standard
espresso double
espresso ristretto
hammerhead
Caffe Americano
Flavoured Coffee
Caffe Latte
Cappuccino
Caffe con Panne, or Melange
Coffee Mocha
Caffe Romano
and more for other choices
Iced Coffee
Kaffa Ice-coffee, special on by Kaffa Cafe (you can make your own)
Iced Caffe Latte
Iced Cappuccino
Iced Coffee Mocha
Kaffa Ice-mandarin Coffee
and more for other choices
Besides coffee, you can put anything more you want.
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View entire thread: cold brew/toddy question
Posted by pablos on 2004-10-05 00:51:26 Post Subject: tha toddy
Ah the toddy, or as we call it here, liquid crack. We only use toddy for our iced coffee here at pablo's, and everyone agrees... it makes a stronger, less bitter beverage. When you brew it hot and then put it in the fridge, it sometimes tastes way too acidic. We use 5lb of coffee at a time, ground moderately fine, and the yield is about three gallons of intese concentrate.
As far as using the liquid crack for hot coffee goes, I guess that's a matter of personal taste. I prefer the french press or a double espresso, sometimes an americano. But to each his or her own!
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Posted by pablos on 2004-10-05 00:51:26 Post Subject: tha toddy
Ah the toddy, or as we call it here, liquid crack. We only use toddy for our iced coffee here at pablo's, and everyone agrees... it makes a stronger, less bitter beverage. When you brew it hot and then put it in the fridge, it sometimes tastes way too acidic. We use 5lb of coffee at a time, ground moderately fine, and the yield is about three gallons of intese concentrate.
As far as using the liquid crack for hot coffee goes, I guess that's a matter of personal taste. I prefer the french press or a double espresso, sometimes an americano. But to each his or her own!
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View entire thread: How many shots of espresso for different sized drinks?
Posted by Muddycup on 2005-12-07 13:09:15 Post Subject: pricing
our pricing is alittle strange but it works:
Three reasons:
1. build a cafe that is nicer and more comfortable than there own home and they will be willing to pay more for a drink just to have their coffee there instead of standing in the deli down the street.
2. build an ala cart type menu i.e. latte 16oz two shots $2.75
add .50 " " carmel $3.25
white choc/carmel latte $3.75
3. alway make sure that you have a minimum charge per customer if you charge .50 per shot then as a customer I would buy a double shot and add milk for $1.00. this way if they get a double espresso it is 1.50 minimum charge and a $1 for another shot $2.50. At that point you can sell them a latte or cap.
customers are smart, they will figure out a way around your pricing if you not careful, remember my busiest store is 1/2 block from a dunkin donuts and yes they are cheaper and I won't take all there business away, but I took all those that rather spend time in our shop rather than stand in dunkin donunts.
Jim
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Posted by Muddycup on 2005-12-07 13:09:15 Post Subject: pricing
our pricing is alittle strange but it works:
Three reasons:
1. build a cafe that is nicer and more comfortable than there own home and they will be willing to pay more for a drink just to have their coffee there instead of standing in the deli down the street.
2. build an ala cart type menu i.e. latte 16oz two shots $2.75
add .50 " " carmel $3.25
white choc/carmel latte $3.75
3. alway make sure that you have a minimum charge per customer if you charge .50 per shot then as a customer I would buy a double shot and add milk for $1.00. this way if they get a double espresso it is 1.50 minimum charge and a $1 for another shot $2.50. At that point you can sell them a latte or cap.
customers are smart, they will figure out a way around your pricing if you not careful, remember my busiest store is 1/2 block from a dunkin donuts and yes they are cheaper and I won't take all there business away, but I took all those that rather spend time in our shop rather than stand in dunkin donunts.
Jim
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View entire thread: Extraction Time Question
Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2004-12-15 13:55:01 Post Subject:
bt, please clarify your point for me. If you use a 14 gram double basket to pull two shots, you then serve one and chill the other, your customer is really getting 7 gram for the 1 oz shot you served, you just like the water distribution of the double basket better. Okay, I understand your point so far. But if you use a 21 gram triple basket to pull a double shots (2 oz), now you are using 10.5 gram for each 1 oz shot. Doesn't that alter the flavor between a single and a double? In another word, if I order 2 cups of espresso ristretto, one for me and one for my wife, you will use the 14 gram basket, but if I order a double espresso just for me, you will use the 21 gram triple basket?
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Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2004-12-15 13:55:01 Post Subject:
bt, please clarify your point for me. If you use a 14 gram double basket to pull two shots, you then serve one and chill the other, your customer is really getting 7 gram for the 1 oz shot you served, you just like the water distribution of the double basket better. Okay, I understand your point so far. But if you use a 21 gram triple basket to pull a double shots (2 oz), now you are using 10.5 gram for each 1 oz shot. Doesn't that alter the flavor between a single and a double? In another word, if I order 2 cups of espresso ristretto, one for me and one for my wife, you will use the 14 gram basket, but if I order a double espresso just for me, you will use the 21 gram triple basket?
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View entire thread: Welcome, Introduce Yourself!
Posted by jpscoffee on 2004-11-03 12:39:32 Post Subject:
Hi,
My wife and I own a coffee bar that we opened when Starbucks had 270 stores. They now have over 8,000 and I still have one. I guess I'm a slow starter (http://www.jpscoffee.com).
We are located in MI in a fabulous downtown that has been completely redone over the last 10-15 years. We are so cool we even have snow melt (about 20 miles of hose looped under all our streets and sidewalks with hot water flowing through to keep snow melted during the winter). Makes for a nice retail environment for us to be a part of.
JP's does a land mine business, we have years of experience, and love to share. I joined this post (as well as being on a couple of others) to learn, share and maybe make some connections.
We've started a cart location, a kiosk location, a juice bar, and a franchise.(My wife tells me I get dangerous when I get bored). I love to learn from others, sometimes get a little opinionated and never lack for one to give.
Here is to family, success, and a great double espresso!
Ciao
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Posted by jpscoffee on 2004-11-03 12:39:32 Post Subject:
Hi,
My wife and I own a coffee bar that we opened when Starbucks had 270 stores. They now have over 8,000 and I still have one. I guess I'm a slow starter (http://www.jpscoffee.com).
We are located in MI in a fabulous downtown that has been completely redone over the last 10-15 years. We are so cool we even have snow melt (about 20 miles of hose looped under all our streets and sidewalks with hot water flowing through to keep snow melted during the winter). Makes for a nice retail environment for us to be a part of.
JP's does a land mine business, we have years of experience, and love to share. I joined this post (as well as being on a couple of others) to learn, share and maybe make some connections.
We've started a cart location, a kiosk location, a juice bar, and a franchise.(My wife tells me I get dangerous when I get bored). I love to learn from others, sometimes get a little opinionated and never lack for one to give.
Here is to family, success, and a great double espresso!
Ciao
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