View entire thread: Trung Nguyen Coffee - The Best Coffee In Viet Nam
Posted by trungnguyencorp on 2007-09-27 04:43:07 Post Subject: Trung Nguyen Coffee - The Best Coffee In Viet Nam
http://trankimha.trustpass.alibaba.com/productlist.html
http://www.trungnguyen.com.vn
HOW WE GROW
Small entrepreneur – Great enterprise
Trung Nguyen Coffee Company - the 1st member in Trung Nguyen Corporation – started business in 1996 as a small entrepreneur led by young medical students.
Creativity and aspiration to increase Vietnamese coffee value have been the key factors bringing us success and fame. Being the No. 1 coffee producer in Vietnam with 2 successful brands - Trung Nguyen coffee and G7 instant coffee - Trung Nguyen has become a phenomenon of incredibly fast-growing company.
Crossing national border, Trung Nguyen’s products are present in more than 40 countries around the world to serve its gourmet drinkers.
The Trung Nguyen experience
Being the first Vietnamese company successfully set up coffee franchising system nationwide and worldwide, Trung Nguyen has been giving its coffee-lovers a unique environment to experience Vietnamese coffee culture through its gourmet coffee cup.
A coffee philosophy transcends language and culture
“Coffee is not just a simple drink, but an inspiration to human creativity”
This philosophy has been the guideline in our franchising system development strategy.
Fast growth
More than 1,000 coffee shops setting up nationwide and worldwide within 8 years showing Trung Nguyen’s proper development strategy and profound philosophy.
OUR NETWORKS
National network: Being the leading coffee brand in Vietnam, our products are present nationwide with a huge distribution network of 140 distributors , 91 supermarkets, resorts, bookstores and thousands of retail shops.
International network: Trung Nguyen’s coffee and tea are serving the world’s drinkers in more than 40 countries including US, UK, Canada, Australia, Hungary, Germany, Denmark, France, Japan, China, Korea, Malaysia, etc. with export value reaching millions US dollar per year.
OUR BRANDS
TRUNG NGUYEN COFFEE - The leading coffee brand in Vietnam
Through the careful selection of Vietnamese Highland’s finest coffee beans and the application of Trung Nguyen’s unique know – how in roasting and brewing, a gourmet coffee brought to you with variant of flavors and aromas.
With a wide product portfolio ranging from ground coffee, espresso to whole beans categories, Trung Nguyen proudly satisfies the mutable needs of its coffee-lovers around the world.
Enjoy the distinctive taste and flavor of Vietnamese coffee and peaceful moments to inspire your creativity through the most beloved coffee brand in Vietnam.
G7 INSTANT COFFEE - The pioneer’s spirit
Launched in 2003, G7 3 in 1 instant coffee immediately won over the leading position of a global brand – Nescafé - in domestic market and crossed national border to reach the world’s consumers.
The facts that G7 coffee chosen as the sole instant coffee serving the Heads of state during the ASEAN 5 Summit is an international recognition of our gourmet coffee quality.
To give our coffee-lovers more choices, G7 instant coffee’s portfolio has been expanded to pure black as well as Cappuccino with different flavors.
KEY FACTORS TO OUR COFFEE BRANDS’ SUCCESS
Perfect geographical conditions
Located in central highland of Vietnam, Buon Ma Thuot – where our coffee grows - having the best conditions for coffee cultivation. Through 160 million years of major geographical changes, its legendary basaltic soil becomes the major factor making our coffee unique.
The unique know-how
With an everlasting passion for coffee, Trung Nguyen’s craftsmen dedicate their lives to bring the world’s coffee-lovers a special coffee range with distinctive tastes and flavors through our unique know-how of coffee selecting, roasting and brewing.
Well-managed system and advanced technology
Being the only coffee producer in Vietnam certified EurepGAP (EUREP: Euro-Retailer Produce Working Group; GAP: Good Agricultural Practice) and HACCP (Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point System), Trung Nguyen proudly convinces the world’s coffee industry of their capability to maintain consumers’ confidence in their coffee quality and safety, minimize detrimental environmental impacts of farming operations and ensure a responsible approach to worker health and safety.
Equipped with European advanced technology, Trung Nguyen’s 2 factories in Buon Ma Thuot and Binh Duong provinces ranking the biggest and most modern coffee factories in Vietnam with maximum capacity reaching 13,000 tons per year for ground and instant coffees.
Strong Manpower – Great Spirit
We are proud of being a member of Trung Nguyen corporation to inspire human’s creativity through our gourmet coffee and profound coffee philosophy. Since coffee is a major source of society development, it’s worth dedicating our lives to treasure it.
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Posted by trungnguyencorp on 2007-09-27 04:43:07 Post Subject: Trung Nguyen Coffee - The Best Coffee In Viet Nam
http://trankimha.trustpass.alibaba.com/productlist.html
http://www.trungnguyen.com.vn
HOW WE GROW
Small entrepreneur – Great enterprise
Trung Nguyen Coffee Company - the 1st member in Trung Nguyen Corporation – started business in 1996 as a small entrepreneur led by young medical students.
Creativity and aspiration to increase Vietnamese coffee value have been the key factors bringing us success and fame. Being the No. 1 coffee producer in Vietnam with 2 successful brands - Trung Nguyen coffee and G7 instant coffee - Trung Nguyen has become a phenomenon of incredibly fast-growing company.
Crossing national border, Trung Nguyen’s products are present in more than 40 countries around the world to serve its gourmet drinkers.
The Trung Nguyen experience
Being the first Vietnamese company successfully set up coffee franchising system nationwide and worldwide, Trung Nguyen has been giving its coffee-lovers a unique environment to experience Vietnamese coffee culture through its gourmet coffee cup.
A coffee philosophy transcends language and culture
“Coffee is not just a simple drink, but an inspiration to human creativity”
This philosophy has been the guideline in our franchising system development strategy.
Fast growth
More than 1,000 coffee shops setting up nationwide and worldwide within 8 years showing Trung Nguyen’s proper development strategy and profound philosophy.
OUR NETWORKS
National network: Being the leading coffee brand in Vietnam, our products are present nationwide with a huge distribution network of 140 distributors , 91 supermarkets, resorts, bookstores and thousands of retail shops.
International network: Trung Nguyen’s coffee and tea are serving the world’s drinkers in more than 40 countries including US, UK, Canada, Australia, Hungary, Germany, Denmark, France, Japan, China, Korea, Malaysia, etc. with export value reaching millions US dollar per year.
OUR BRANDS
TRUNG NGUYEN COFFEE - The leading coffee brand in Vietnam
Through the careful selection of Vietnamese Highland’s finest coffee beans and the application of Trung Nguyen’s unique know – how in roasting and brewing, a gourmet coffee brought to you with variant of flavors and aromas.
With a wide product portfolio ranging from ground coffee, espresso to whole beans categories, Trung Nguyen proudly satisfies the mutable needs of its coffee-lovers around the world.
Enjoy the distinctive taste and flavor of Vietnamese coffee and peaceful moments to inspire your creativity through the most beloved coffee brand in Vietnam.
G7 INSTANT COFFEE - The pioneer’s spirit
Launched in 2003, G7 3 in 1 instant coffee immediately won over the leading position of a global brand – Nescafé - in domestic market and crossed national border to reach the world’s consumers.
The facts that G7 coffee chosen as the sole instant coffee serving the Heads of state during the ASEAN 5 Summit is an international recognition of our gourmet coffee quality.
To give our coffee-lovers more choices, G7 instant coffee’s portfolio has been expanded to pure black as well as Cappuccino with different flavors.
KEY FACTORS TO OUR COFFEE BRANDS’ SUCCESS
Perfect geographical conditions
Located in central highland of Vietnam, Buon Ma Thuot – where our coffee grows - having the best conditions for coffee cultivation. Through 160 million years of major geographical changes, its legendary basaltic soil becomes the major factor making our coffee unique.
The unique know-how
With an everlasting passion for coffee, Trung Nguyen’s craftsmen dedicate their lives to bring the world’s coffee-lovers a special coffee range with distinctive tastes and flavors through our unique know-how of coffee selecting, roasting and brewing.
Well-managed system and advanced technology
Being the only coffee producer in Vietnam certified EurepGAP (EUREP: Euro-Retailer Produce Working Group; GAP: Good Agricultural Practice) and HACCP (Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point System), Trung Nguyen proudly convinces the world’s coffee industry of their capability to maintain consumers’ confidence in their coffee quality and safety, minimize detrimental environmental impacts of farming operations and ensure a responsible approach to worker health and safety.
Equipped with European advanced technology, Trung Nguyen’s 2 factories in Buon Ma Thuot and Binh Duong provinces ranking the biggest and most modern coffee factories in Vietnam with maximum capacity reaching 13,000 tons per year for ground and instant coffees.
Strong Manpower – Great Spirit
We are proud of being a member of Trung Nguyen corporation to inspire human’s creativity through our gourmet coffee and profound coffee philosophy. Since coffee is a major source of society development, it’s worth dedicating our lives to treasure it.
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View entire thread: Keyword Research
Posted by CoffeeLover on 2003-03-25 09:38:25 Post Subject: Keyword Research
I've started a Google Adword Campaign for Coffee Forums to Figure out which keywords people come here from and which ones are searched for most. I will run this campaign for the next few days, while its happening we can post keyword stuffed posts using some of these topics:
2 private reserve coffee
2 phtoshop coffee forum
2 coffee
1 railway britain "coffee"
1 most popular coffee brand spain
1 is coffee bad for me?
1 indian coffee suplliers in australia
1 green coffee bean prices australia
1 fantastic coffee shops
1 espresso koffie bar
1 coffee window sticker
1 coffee supplies adelaide
1 coffee ratings
1 coffee percolator south Africa
1 coffee manufacturers
1 Kona Coffee Plantation
1 Coffee Industry Employment
1 Australian Coffee Machines
1 "international marketing, coffee"
1 "coffee serving sets"
1 "coffee business"
1 coffee blends
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Posted by CoffeeLover on 2003-03-25 09:38:25 Post Subject: Keyword Research
I've started a Google Adword Campaign for Coffee Forums to Figure out which keywords people come here from and which ones are searched for most. I will run this campaign for the next few days, while its happening we can post keyword stuffed posts using some of these topics:
2 private reserve coffee
2 phtoshop coffee forum
2 coffee
1 railway britain "coffee"
1 most popular coffee brand spain
1 is coffee bad for me?
1 indian coffee suplliers in australia
1 green coffee bean prices australia
1 fantastic coffee shops
1 espresso koffie bar
1 coffee window sticker
1 coffee supplies adelaide
1 coffee ratings
1 coffee percolator south Africa
1 coffee manufacturers
1 Kona Coffee Plantation
1 Coffee Industry Employment
1 Australian Coffee Machines
1 "international marketing, coffee"
1 "coffee serving sets"
1 "coffee business"
1 coffee blends
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View entire thread: PR: Groundwork's wholesale group joins The Supreme Bean
Posted by cafemakers on 2008-10-07 04:35:37 Post Subject: PR: Groundwork's wholesale group joins The Supreme Bean
NORTH HOLLYWOOD & LOS ANGELES, Calif. (October 7, 2008) – The Supreme Bean Coffee Roasters and Groundwork Coffee Company have entered into a strategic partnership to better serve the customers of both organizations. Under terms of the agreement, Supreme Bean will add Groundwork’s wholesale portfolio to its business and represent both brands beginning October 15, 2008.
“We see the addition of the Groundwork Coffee brand to our wholesale business as an exciting win/win opportunity to enhance our premium line by including a brand recognized for outstanding certified organic and fairly traded coffee,” said Supreme Bean president, Jeff Chean.
“Transitioning responsibility for our wholesale customers to The Supreme Bean will allow Groundwork Coffee Company to focus on the operations and growth of our retail café business,” commented Groundwork president Richard Karno. “We know that our wholesale customers are going to really like these guys –their reputation for excellent service and consistently high quality coffee is well known. Working together, we will ensure a seamless transition so that Groundwork’s distinctive coffees will be available to our wholesale customers for years to come.”
About The Supreme Bean Coffee Roasters
The Supreme Bean is an artisan specialty coffee roasting company based in North Hollywood, California. Founded in 1994, the business began as modest wholesale coffee roasting and catering business (as Joe to Go), within a few short years becoming a must-have feature of television productions like The Tonight Show, Friends, The Academy Awards, The Emmy Awards and numerous motion picture sets. Consistently recognized for quality by trade publications and industry experts, including the highest-ever scored decaffeinated coffee by the venerable Coffee Review, The Supreme Bean has grown to become a leading supplier of premium specialty coffees, training and support services to businesses nationwide. For more information, please visit http://www.thesupremebean.com.
About Groundwork Coffee Company
Groundwork Coffee Company is one of the first certified organic coffee roasters in the State of California. Founded in 1990 as the addition to a rare book store and café, the company now has six retail locations throughout metropolitan Los Angeles that offer certified organic, fairly traded, shade grown and other economically and environmentally sustainable coffees. For more information, please visit http://lacoffee.com.
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Posted by cafemakers on 2008-10-07 04:35:37 Post Subject: PR: Groundwork's wholesale group joins The Supreme Bean
NORTH HOLLYWOOD & LOS ANGELES, Calif. (October 7, 2008) – The Supreme Bean Coffee Roasters and Groundwork Coffee Company have entered into a strategic partnership to better serve the customers of both organizations. Under terms of the agreement, Supreme Bean will add Groundwork’s wholesale portfolio to its business and represent both brands beginning October 15, 2008.
“We see the addition of the Groundwork Coffee brand to our wholesale business as an exciting win/win opportunity to enhance our premium line by including a brand recognized for outstanding certified organic and fairly traded coffee,” said Supreme Bean president, Jeff Chean.
“Transitioning responsibility for our wholesale customers to The Supreme Bean will allow Groundwork Coffee Company to focus on the operations and growth of our retail café business,” commented Groundwork president Richard Karno. “We know that our wholesale customers are going to really like these guys –their reputation for excellent service and consistently high quality coffee is well known. Working together, we will ensure a seamless transition so that Groundwork’s distinctive coffees will be available to our wholesale customers for years to come.”
About The Supreme Bean Coffee Roasters
The Supreme Bean is an artisan specialty coffee roasting company based in North Hollywood, California. Founded in 1994, the business began as modest wholesale coffee roasting and catering business (as Joe to Go), within a few short years becoming a must-have feature of television productions like The Tonight Show, Friends, The Academy Awards, The Emmy Awards and numerous motion picture sets. Consistently recognized for quality by trade publications and industry experts, including the highest-ever scored decaffeinated coffee by the venerable Coffee Review, The Supreme Bean has grown to become a leading supplier of premium specialty coffees, training and support services to businesses nationwide. For more information, please visit http://www.thesupremebean.com.
About Groundwork Coffee Company
Groundwork Coffee Company is one of the first certified organic coffee roasters in the State of California. Founded in 1990 as the addition to a rare book store and café, the company now has six retail locations throughout metropolitan Los Angeles that offer certified organic, fairly traded, shade grown and other economically and environmentally sustainable coffees. For more information, please visit http://lacoffee.com.
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View entire thread: Spamming getting out of control
Posted by equus007 on 2006-12-19 19:51:01 Post Subject:
Agreed. I get on once or twice a day and find there are at least 5 posts of just blatant spam...have stopped looking for people pushing their coffee brand because I spend all my time getting rid of the porn or pornaceuticals.
sucks that this is a not-profit site and its getting hit to the point that 6 people have to be constantly cleaning it up. Maybe we should take a credit card # and charge em $250.00 every time they drop an add.
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Posted by equus007 on 2006-12-19 19:51:01 Post Subject:
Agreed. I get on once or twice a day and find there are at least 5 posts of just blatant spam...have stopped looking for people pushing their coffee brand because I spend all my time getting rid of the porn or pornaceuticals.
sucks that this is a not-profit site and its getting hit to the point that 6 people have to be constantly cleaning it up. Maybe we should take a credit card # and charge em $250.00 every time they drop an add.
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View entire thread: Torrefazione Italia Coffee
Posted by cuppED on 2005-08-11 11:32:26 Post Subject: Torrefazione Italia Coffee
Anyone ever hear of this coffee brand? Thoughts/Opinions?
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Posted by cuppED on 2005-08-11 11:32:26 Post Subject: Torrefazione Italia Coffee
Anyone ever hear of this coffee brand? Thoughts/Opinions?
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View entire thread: what is the best method of roasting?
Posted by CafeBlue on 2007-02-11 00:59:56 Post Subject:
In most cases I recommend not roasting at first.
Consider: Roasting coffee (and buying green coffee and blending, and packaging, etc.) is an entirely different business, which requires several completely different skill sets from cafe operations. Roasting requires a further (and large) investment in capital equipment - that is more specialized than coffee brewing and foodservice equipment.
In a start-up new venture, you will have your hands full successfully operating one new type of business - why add another major challenge? You should readily find several committed specialty coffee roasters to compare - and then you can select coffee and service levels that best suit your needs.
Learn and put into practice all you can about coffee brewing, tasting, espresso, barista skills, training, cafe/foodservice operations and local store marketing. Then think about expanding by adding a second cafe location or by adding a roasting capability.
Just because you do not roast, does not mean that you cannot promote your own coffee brand. You can easily work with many roasters to co-pack coffee in your brand packaging. Depending on volume, packaging, costs, product selection, and other factors - a co-packing scenario may be best option forever. Several multi-unit chains and franchisors have co-packed in one variation or another for decades while strongly promoting their brand.
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Posted by CafeBlue on 2007-02-11 00:59:56 Post Subject:
In most cases I recommend not roasting at first.
Consider: Roasting coffee (and buying green coffee and blending, and packaging, etc.) is an entirely different business, which requires several completely different skill sets from cafe operations. Roasting requires a further (and large) investment in capital equipment - that is more specialized than coffee brewing and foodservice equipment.
In a start-up new venture, you will have your hands full successfully operating one new type of business - why add another major challenge? You should readily find several committed specialty coffee roasters to compare - and then you can select coffee and service levels that best suit your needs.
Learn and put into practice all you can about coffee brewing, tasting, espresso, barista skills, training, cafe/foodservice operations and local store marketing. Then think about expanding by adding a second cafe location or by adding a roasting capability.
Just because you do not roast, does not mean that you cannot promote your own coffee brand. You can easily work with many roasters to co-pack coffee in your brand packaging. Depending on volume, packaging, costs, product selection, and other factors - a co-packing scenario may be best option forever. Several multi-unit chains and franchisors have co-packed in one variation or another for decades while strongly promoting their brand.
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View entire thread: Looking to Buy Prepackaged Kona Coffee in Bulk
Posted by thehaole on 2006-10-02 19:40:16 Post Subject: Looking to Buy Prepackaged Kona Coffee in Bulk
Aloha,
I'm looking to buy coffee from Kona (100% prefferably) estate or non-estate. I'm looking for roasted and packaged coffee but without the label. I'd like to start my own company selling a coffee brand and have my own labels.
I currently live on Oahu so I probably could just wander over to the Big island and ask around but found this forum and thought I would post the question.
Wondering what prices for 2 oz, 8oz, 14oz, 1lb, 2lb, and or 5lb pre-packaged whole bean would be and if anyone has any.
And yes, I found coffeeroom.com and am working on getting a quote, but would imagine they are a bit pricey.
Thanks and Aloha,
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Posted by thehaole on 2006-10-02 19:40:16 Post Subject: Looking to Buy Prepackaged Kona Coffee in Bulk
Aloha,
I'm looking to buy coffee from Kona (100% prefferably) estate or non-estate. I'm looking for roasted and packaged coffee but without the label. I'd like to start my own company selling a coffee brand and have my own labels.
I currently live on Oahu so I probably could just wander over to the Big island and ask around but found this forum and thought I would post the question.
Wondering what prices for 2 oz, 8oz, 14oz, 1lb, 2lb, and or 5lb pre-packaged whole bean would be and if anyone has any.
And yes, I found coffeeroom.com and am working on getting a quote, but would imagine they are a bit pricey.
Thanks and Aloha,
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View entire thread: World Cup Shanghai
Posted by Alun_evans on 2006-07-17 07:28:39 Post Subject: Another Coffeeforums member in the news...
Just reading my daily Communicafe report and came accross this article-
China - Cafemakers’ President to speak at Asia Tea & Coffee Conference
Andrew Hetzel, president of leading retail specialty coffee consultancy Cafemakers, LLC, will speak at the 2006 Tea & Coffee World Cup Exhibition & Symposium on Thursday, September 28, in Shanghai, China. The session, entitled "Specialty Coffee Brand Marketing" will highlight the importance of branding and present strategies used by top regional and global specialty coffee retailers to successfully develop and market
I was thinking of heading up to Shanghai for the T&C World cup, who else beside Andrew will be going??
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Posted by Alun_evans on 2006-07-17 07:28:39 Post Subject: Another Coffeeforums member in the news...
Just reading my daily Communicafe report and came accross this article-
China - Cafemakers’ President to speak at Asia Tea & Coffee Conference
Andrew Hetzel, president of leading retail specialty coffee consultancy Cafemakers, LLC, will speak at the 2006 Tea & Coffee World Cup Exhibition & Symposium on Thursday, September 28, in Shanghai, China. The session, entitled "Specialty Coffee Brand Marketing" will highlight the importance of branding and present strategies used by top regional and global specialty coffee retailers to successfully develop and market
I was thinking of heading up to Shanghai for the T&C World cup, who else beside Andrew will be going??
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View entire thread: Hello Boss Location
Posted by edwwu on 2005-05-27 18:46:56 Post Subject:
Hello,
I am a student from Taiwan. The "Hello Boss coffee" confused me for a long time cause I've never heard this product and it's manufacturer in my country. I think the "Hello Boss Coffee" is a clone product of another Taiwan coffee brand " Mr. Brown Coffee". You can see the below website :
http://sh2.yahoo.edyna.com/kingcar/item ... id=1001283
http://www.kingcar.com.tw/company05.htm
The brand photos of "Hello Boss" and "Mr. Brown" are similar, right ? I do not know why the "Hello Boss" coffee is so popular in California, because for we Taiwanese, it looks like a clone product of "Mr. Brown coffee". I think if you go to chinatown or some other asian market, you can also find the "Mr. Brown coffee". The " Mr. Brown Coffee" is a famous coffee brand with good reputation in Taiwan. As for "Hello Boss" (?) . Maybe the company really exists in Taiwan and sells its coffee drinks to U.S only. I am sure that the "Hello Boss" product do not sold in Taiwan market.
Ed
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Posted by edwwu on 2005-05-27 18:46:56 Post Subject:
Hello,
I am a student from Taiwan. The "Hello Boss coffee" confused me for a long time cause I've never heard this product and it's manufacturer in my country. I think the "Hello Boss Coffee" is a clone product of another Taiwan coffee brand " Mr. Brown Coffee". You can see the below website :
http://sh2.yahoo.edyna.com/kingcar/item ... id=1001283
http://www.kingcar.com.tw/company05.htm
The brand photos of "Hello Boss" and "Mr. Brown" are similar, right ? I do not know why the "Hello Boss" coffee is so popular in California, because for we Taiwanese, it looks like a clone product of "Mr. Brown coffee". I think if you go to chinatown or some other asian market, you can also find the "Mr. Brown coffee". The " Mr. Brown Coffee" is a famous coffee brand with good reputation in Taiwan. As for "Hello Boss" (?) . Maybe the company really exists in Taiwan and sells its coffee drinks to U.S only. I am sure that the "Hello Boss" product do not sold in Taiwan market.
Ed
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View entire thread: 3000-4000 Machine
Posted by CafeBlue on 2007-04-21 18:14:02 Post Subject: Re: 3000-4000 Machine
... a good machine ... not everyone on here is a big fan of super auto''s but that would be preferred. ...it seems the full autos in that price range are not commercial grade.
If I go semi auto I would need to get a grinder included in that budget.
You answered many of your own questions.
While we all have different definitions of "good", I think you have a few viable options, depending on your particular needs.
Most people agree that "you get what you pay for". I will add that you are guaranteed to "pay for what you get", but may not receive full value for what you pay. All things comparable, the more features (e.g. super-automatic control, built-in grinder, auto-frother, custom paint, stainless steel) you get - generally the more you sacrifice on build quality, reliability and performance. Think about a fully-featured car with all the bells and whistles compared to a base-model sedan from another manufacturer with better build quality - they may retail for similar prices, but which one is BETTER FOR YOU?
Yes, I agree that the full-auto and super-automatics in that price range are not designed to be durable. full-time, full featured, full capacity commercial machines. I have some experience with several different super-automatics, and they are appropriate in some circumstances. the machines in your budget range are meant for occassional use, such as home and office environments. They can suffice for a small volume restaurant or a bartender's needs, but are un-likely suitable for a cafe that intends to establish a specialty coffee brand and a top quality beverage product. The super-autos are more difficult to program and adjust to changing coffee characteristics, but are easier to teach "how to operate" to un-skilled staff. The truly commercial grade new super-autos are 2-3 times your budget - you would need to pay more to get more (or shop for used/reconditioned).
If your shop is small volume now, you likely operate with one-three reliable employees (perhaps including yourself) that will prepare all the espresso based drinks. In this case, automation may be more gadgets than you really need. Get some good training on a good quality semi-auto with a decent doser-less espresso grinder and you can make some amazing beverages with a modicum of practice. Good quality commercial grade single or two-head espresso machines and a doserless grinder basic models begin in your price range. I hope you noticed, I said DOSERLESS grinder . The top quality machines are significantly more, offering better build quality, better preparation caliber and significantly greater production capacity. You may also find reconditioned used gear of that type that is (just) within your budget - much less than your budget is likely not worth paying for.
Ask your specialty coffee / espresso roaster for assistance. Consider finding a roaster that specializes in fresh roasted espresso.
Consider that local service support may be more important than absolute price or even the specific machine you choose. Source local service now, and ask for assistance. You may even find the roaster or service house has a good trade-in machine or re-furbished demonstrator unit available.
Before you decide, think about who will use the equipment, who and how will you have the staff trained, what quality does your customer expect/deserve, how many drinks do you expect to sell per hour (this year and third year), how much will these beverages retail for, and what brand/quality image do you wish to project?
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Posted by CafeBlue on 2007-04-21 18:14:02 Post Subject: Re: 3000-4000 Machine
... a good machine ... not everyone on here is a big fan of super auto''s but that would be preferred. ...it seems the full autos in that price range are not commercial grade.
If I go semi auto I would need to get a grinder included in that budget.
You answered many of your own questions.
While we all have different definitions of "good", I think you have a few viable options, depending on your particular needs.
Most people agree that "you get what you pay for". I will add that you are guaranteed to "pay for what you get", but may not receive full value for what you pay. All things comparable, the more features (e.g. super-automatic control, built-in grinder, auto-frother, custom paint, stainless steel) you get - generally the more you sacrifice on build quality, reliability and performance. Think about a fully-featured car with all the bells and whistles compared to a base-model sedan from another manufacturer with better build quality - they may retail for similar prices, but which one is BETTER FOR YOU?
Yes, I agree that the full-auto and super-automatics in that price range are not designed to be durable. full-time, full featured, full capacity commercial machines. I have some experience with several different super-automatics, and they are appropriate in some circumstances. the machines in your budget range are meant for occassional use, such as home and office environments. They can suffice for a small volume restaurant or a bartender's needs, but are un-likely suitable for a cafe that intends to establish a specialty coffee brand and a top quality beverage product. The super-autos are more difficult to program and adjust to changing coffee characteristics, but are easier to teach "how to operate" to un-skilled staff. The truly commercial grade new super-autos are 2-3 times your budget - you would need to pay more to get more (or shop for used/reconditioned).
If your shop is small volume now, you likely operate with one-three reliable employees (perhaps including yourself) that will prepare all the espresso based drinks. In this case, automation may be more gadgets than you really need. Get some good training on a good quality semi-auto with a decent doser-less espresso grinder and you can make some amazing beverages with a modicum of practice. Good quality commercial grade single or two-head espresso machines and a doserless grinder basic models begin in your price range. I hope you noticed, I said DOSERLESS grinder
. The top quality machines are significantly more, offering better build quality, better preparation caliber and significantly greater production capacity. You may also find reconditioned used gear of that type that is (just) within your budget - much less than your budget is likely not worth paying for.Ask your specialty coffee / espresso roaster for assistance. Consider finding a roaster that specializes in fresh roasted espresso.
Consider that local service support may be more important than absolute price or even the specific machine you choose. Source local service now, and ask for assistance. You may even find the roaster or service house has a good trade-in machine or re-furbished demonstrator unit available.
Before you decide, think about who will use the equipment, who and how will you have the staff trained, what quality does your customer expect/deserve, how many drinks do you expect to sell per hour (this year and third year), how much will these beverages retail for, and what brand/quality image do you wish to project?
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View entire thread: How to get ranked high on google for your coffee site
Posted by willis joco on 2008-04-17 04:10:04 Post Subject: How to get ranked high on google for your coffee site
Hi i would like to talk about how to get higher ranking in google so my coffee brand will be more noticed. Please have a look at my site and give me some feed back or just talk about ways myself and other can improve our coffee website.
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Posted by willis joco on 2008-04-17 04:10:04 Post Subject: How to get ranked high on google for your coffee site
Hi i would like to talk about how to get higher ranking in google so my coffee brand will be more noticed. Please have a look at my site and give me some feed back or just talk about ways myself and other can improve our coffee website.
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View entire thread: Grocery Store Coffee Recommendations?
Posted by notmuffy on 2003-04-05 10:01:13 Post Subject:
Here in the Uk there aren't too many choices. Usually the store's brand, and maybe one other one. I just get the store's brand , because I've tried the other and there's no difference; and the store brand comes in "italian", "espresso", and "french" at least. We can't get coffee in a 4-gallon barrel for $10 (maxwell house, etc) like in America
If I am somewhere where there is a specialty shop I will just get what appeals to me.
If I had my choice of any coffee brand, I would probably go for Arbuckles'. I have only seen it a couple places in NY. They have the BEST flavors! mmmm Blueberry Muffin......
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Posted by notmuffy on 2003-04-05 10:01:13 Post Subject:
Here in the Uk there aren't too many choices. Usually the store's brand, and maybe one other one. I just get the store's brand , because I've tried the other and there's no difference; and the store brand comes in "italian", "espresso", and "french" at least. We can't get coffee in a 4-gallon barrel for $10 (maxwell house, etc) like in America
If I am somewhere where there is a specialty shop I will just get what appeals to me.
If I had my choice of any coffee brand, I would probably go for Arbuckles'. I have only seen it a couple places in NY. They have the BEST flavors! mmmm Blueberry Muffin......
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View entire thread: GETTING A NEW 3 GROUP MACHINE FOR MELBOURNE CAFE! HELP!
Posted by Phat_Boy! on 2006-03-29 06:44:18 Post Subject: GETTING A NEW 3 GROUP MACHINE FOR MELBOURNE CAFE! HELP!
Hi Guys! wow cant beleive ive found a coffee forum. My cafes located in Melbourne Carnegie.
Coffee brand we use is Gravity. Weve asked to be upgraded to a new 3 group machine. Currently we use a 2 group Megacrema. That is the only name i could find on the machine. ive never heard of it before.
The want to give us a machine that has strange name and i cant spell
it correctly but someone may be able to help.
Azoygoyon
Anoyozgon
Anyogon
Zyogon
If anyone could shed some light on this machine they want to give us that could be a pile of junk pleeeeeeeeeeease help!!!
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Posted by Phat_Boy! on 2006-03-29 06:44:18 Post Subject: GETTING A NEW 3 GROUP MACHINE FOR MELBOURNE CAFE! HELP!
Hi Guys! wow cant beleive ive found a coffee forum. My cafes located in Melbourne Carnegie.
Coffee brand we use is Gravity. Weve asked to be upgraded to a new 3 group machine. Currently we use a 2 group Megacrema. That is the only name i could find on the machine. ive never heard of it before.
The want to give us a machine that has strange name and i cant spell
it correctly but someone may be able to help.
Azoygoyon
Anoyozgon
Anyogon
Zyogon
If anyone could shed some light on this machine they want to give us that could be a pile of junk pleeeeeeeeeeease help!!!
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View entire thread: Recipe to make Starbucks White chocolate moca
Posted by coffeesnob2007 on 2007-02-03 22:52:56 Post Subject: How to Really Make a Latte
I have been reading through some of this and my head is spinning at all the trickery about making a latte.
For starters, to achieve a good latte, a $30 Walmart espresso machine will do nothing more than disappoint. I had purchased a Mr Coffee brand and it blew. I took that back so fast!!
Then I bought a more expensive machine, which I love. I bought a Krups that was about $150.
One important thing to remember about making a latte is that you want something that can steam milk AND achieve a good foam. You will not get this with a cheap machine. Sorry.
To properly steam milk and achieve a nice amount of foam, here are some tips.
1. Chill your container that hold the milk in the freezer for at least 5 minutes - up to 15.
2. If you can, put the milk in it while you put it in the freezer, but no more than 5 minutes following this method.
3. It is best to use a stainless steel container instead of glass.
4. Your container should really have the capacity to hold double the amount of liquid you are pouring into it.
5. Your milk needs to be COLD...and I mean COLD. This is why putting it in the freezer is a good idea.
6. Fat free and 1% milk foam the absolute best.
Some other tips for properly making espresso....
1. Do not use ground coffee....use espresso. Real espresso - not some french roast or Maxwell House. That is crap.
2. Whole beans freshly ground within the last 5 days produce a much better taste.
3. When grinding your own beans, use a fine grind. This will allow the best and most proper brew. You will know it is brewing properly because your espresso will have a light foam on the top of it.
4. Tamp your espresso down in the filter before inserting the filter into the machine.
5. Cold water makes a better tasting espresso. Don''t worry, it will come out piping hot.
I love Starbucks'' Marble Mocha Macchiato. I am not 100% there, but I can tell you what I have done to almost get that flavor. It works for a White Chocolate Mocha as well.
1. Make your own sauce and syrup. If you don''t know how, that is what Google is for. search: recipe, white chocolate sauce
2. Starbucks makes their own which chocolate sauce and dark chocolate syrup. They will not sell these to the public.
3. The white chocolate sauce is made in a factory and the dark chocolate syrup is made right there in the store daily.
The oil in the cup after you finish your Mocha is from the white chocolate. It is very simple to make yourself on a stovetop with heavy whipping cream and white chocolate.
To make a Marble Mocha Macchiato:
1 oz white choc sauce
1 cup steamed milk
Milk Foam
1 oz espresso shot
dark choc drizzle
OR
1.5 oz choc sauce
1.5 cup steamed milk
Milk Foam
2 oz espresso shot
dark choc drizzle
White Mocha
The same as above, add extra .5 oz of white choc mocha and omit the dark chocolate.
How do I know all of this? If I told you, I would have to kill you!
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Posted by coffeesnob2007 on 2007-02-03 22:52:56 Post Subject: How to Really Make a Latte
I have been reading through some of this and my head is spinning at all the trickery about making a latte.
For starters, to achieve a good latte, a $30 Walmart espresso machine will do nothing more than disappoint. I had purchased a Mr Coffee brand and it blew. I took that back so fast!!
Then I bought a more expensive machine, which I love. I bought a Krups that was about $150.
One important thing to remember about making a latte is that you want something that can steam milk AND achieve a good foam. You will not get this with a cheap machine. Sorry.
To properly steam milk and achieve a nice amount of foam, here are some tips.
1. Chill your container that hold the milk in the freezer for at least 5 minutes - up to 15.
2. If you can, put the milk in it while you put it in the freezer, but no more than 5 minutes following this method.
3. It is best to use a stainless steel container instead of glass.
4. Your container should really have the capacity to hold double the amount of liquid you are pouring into it.
5. Your milk needs to be COLD...and I mean COLD. This is why putting it in the freezer is a good idea.
6. Fat free and 1% milk foam the absolute best.
Some other tips for properly making espresso....
1. Do not use ground coffee....use espresso. Real espresso - not some french roast or Maxwell House. That is crap.
2. Whole beans freshly ground within the last 5 days produce a much better taste.
3. When grinding your own beans, use a fine grind. This will allow the best and most proper brew. You will know it is brewing properly because your espresso will have a light foam on the top of it.
4. Tamp your espresso down in the filter before inserting the filter into the machine.
5. Cold water makes a better tasting espresso. Don''t worry, it will come out piping hot.
I love Starbucks'' Marble Mocha Macchiato. I am not 100% there, but I can tell you what I have done to almost get that flavor. It works for a White Chocolate Mocha as well.
1. Make your own sauce and syrup. If you don''t know how, that is what Google is for.
search: recipe, white chocolate sauce2. Starbucks makes their own which chocolate sauce and dark chocolate syrup. They will not sell these to the public.
3. The white chocolate sauce is made in a factory and the dark chocolate syrup is made right there in the store daily.
The oil in the cup after you finish your Mocha is from the white chocolate. It is very simple to make yourself on a stovetop with heavy whipping cream and white chocolate.
To make a Marble Mocha Macchiato:
1 oz white choc sauce
1 cup steamed milk
Milk Foam
1 oz espresso shot
dark choc drizzle
OR
1.5 oz choc sauce
1.5 cup steamed milk
Milk Foam
2 oz espresso shot
dark choc drizzle
White Mocha
The same as above, add extra .5 oz of white choc mocha and omit the dark chocolate.
How do I know all of this? If I told you, I would have to kill you!
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