View entire thread: barista need in advice
Posted by edmond on 2006-02-07 09:49:40 Post Subject: barista need in advice
Hallow my name is Eduard and I am barista and I to take part in CCI’s Work and Travel Program it will give me the opportunity to work in united States during summer 2006.I working for one year as barista in the one of the biggest coffee house nets in Moscow .And I am looking for barista job in USA for this summer. It will be very interesting and important for me like barista, to practice myself in American coffee house. And get a new knowledge in making specialty coffee drinks and to now more about coffee. Who can tell the name or may be e-mail (web site) coffee house where can work international student like barista?
for advices
edye@list.ru
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Posted by edmond on 2006-02-07 09:49:40 Post Subject: barista need in advice
Hallow my name is Eduard and I am barista and I to take part in CCI’s Work and Travel Program it will give me the opportunity to work in united States during summer 2006.I working for one year as barista in the one of the biggest coffee house nets in Moscow .And I am looking for barista job in USA for this summer. It will be very interesting and important for me like barista, to practice myself in American coffee house. And get a new knowledge in making specialty coffee drinks and to now more about coffee. Who can tell the name or may be e-mail (web site) coffee house where can work international student like barista?
for advices
edye@list.ru
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View entire thread: BistroBuzz.com - Coffee House Marketing
Posted by mark99 on 2008-10-20 14:47:45 Post Subject: BistroBuzz.com - Coffee House Marketing
Hi Everyone,
A while back I posted looking for beta testers for bistrobuzz.com, a web based coffee house CRM and rewards management system.
We've had some great feedback so far and are still looking for a couple more independent coffee house owners to participate. In return for providing some feedback to us you get to use bistrobuzz for free for life.
The system is designed to overcome common problems faced by coffee house owners including customer tracking, making your website interactive, email marketing, and rewards / cash card management.
If you've been looking for a system to manage your customer database, then you would probably be a good fit for bistrobuzz.
If you're interested in participating, you can go to our site at www.bistrobuzz.com and fill out the form there. Right now, we need 2-3 more shops, so we may not be able to accomodate everyone who responds.
If you have any questions, feel free to send me a message and I'll be happy to respond.
Thanks,
Mark
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Posted by mark99 on 2008-10-20 14:47:45 Post Subject: BistroBuzz.com - Coffee House Marketing
Hi Everyone,
A while back I posted looking for beta testers for bistrobuzz.com, a web based coffee house CRM and rewards management system.
We've had some great feedback so far and are still looking for a couple more independent coffee house owners to participate. In return for providing some feedback to us you get to use bistrobuzz for free for life.
The system is designed to overcome common problems faced by coffee house owners including customer tracking, making your website interactive, email marketing, and rewards / cash card management.
If you've been looking for a system to manage your customer database, then you would probably be a good fit for bistrobuzz.
If you're interested in participating, you can go to our site at www.bistrobuzz.com and fill out the form there. Right now, we need 2-3 more shops, so we may not be able to accomodate everyone who responds.
If you have any questions, feel free to send me a message and I'll be happy to respond.
Thanks,
Mark
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View entire thread: Coffee House GM job available in Chattanooga
Posted by BVAD on 2007-11-01 08:42:27 Post Subject: Coffee House GM job available in Chattanooga
Hello All!
I am Director of Human Resources for a hospitality company located in Chattanooga, TN (Bluff View Art District.) We have a position available for our Coffee House and I thought where better to post than here. My contact information is (jobs@bluffview.com) and our website is bluffview.com
Thank you!
W. Richardson
General Manager for Rembrandt’s Coffee Chattanooga, TN
Bluff View Art District’s Rembrandt’s Coffee seeks a Food and Beverage to manage all aspects of day-to-day operations, growth, and people development for all of Rembrandt’s Coffee retail and wholesale venues.
Rembrandt’s Coffee consists of:
Rembrandt’s Coffee House: Our high-volume European-style coffee house featuring pastries, desserts, and chocolates made from scratch in Bluff View Art District along with a selection of gourmet soups, salads, and sandwiches.
Rembrandt’s Roasting Company: Our wholesale and retail coffee roasting facility located within Bluff View Art District.
Memorial Hospital Rembrandt’s Cafe: Featuring Rembrandt’s coffee and a selection of pastry and lunch items.
The qualified candidate for this hands-on position will have a strong restaurant, coffee, or retail background. Visit our website at: www.bluffview.com for contact information.
Bluff View Art District
Bluff View Art District is a collection of cultural delights located atop a bluff overlooking the Tennessee River. This includes an art gallery, specialty kitchens, gardens, fine restaurants, a coffeehouse, an executive banquet and conference center, and a bed and breakfast-style inn (located in three buildings throughout the District).
The one-block District has become a destination where visitors find an incredible variety of things to do and see within in easy walking distance of Chattanooga’s thriving downtown. It’s location near Hunter Museum of American Art, and Houston Museum, adds depth to the historical and artistic significance of the experience. Over the years thousands of visitors have enjoyed the District’s beautiful accommodations, internationally acclaimed art, exquisite gardens and world class dining.
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Posted by BVAD on 2007-11-01 08:42:27 Post Subject: Coffee House GM job available in Chattanooga
Hello All!
I am Director of Human Resources for a hospitality company located in Chattanooga, TN (Bluff View Art District.) We have a position available for our Coffee House and I thought where better to post than here. My contact information is (jobs@bluffview.com) and our website is bluffview.com
Thank you!
W. Richardson
General Manager for Rembrandt’s Coffee Chattanooga, TN
Bluff View Art District’s Rembrandt’s Coffee seeks a Food and Beverage to manage all aspects of day-to-day operations, growth, and people development for all of Rembrandt’s Coffee retail and wholesale venues.
Rembrandt’s Coffee consists of:
Rembrandt’s Coffee House: Our high-volume European-style coffee house featuring pastries, desserts, and chocolates made from scratch in Bluff View Art District along with a selection of gourmet soups, salads, and sandwiches.
Rembrandt’s Roasting Company: Our wholesale and retail coffee roasting facility located within Bluff View Art District.
Memorial Hospital Rembrandt’s Cafe: Featuring Rembrandt’s coffee and a selection of pastry and lunch items.
The qualified candidate for this hands-on position will have a strong restaurant, coffee, or retail background. Visit our website at: www.bluffview.com for contact information.
Bluff View Art District
Bluff View Art District is a collection of cultural delights located atop a bluff overlooking the Tennessee River. This includes an art gallery, specialty kitchens, gardens, fine restaurants, a coffeehouse, an executive banquet and conference center, and a bed and breakfast-style inn (located in three buildings throughout the District).
The one-block District has become a destination where visitors find an incredible variety of things to do and see within in easy walking distance of Chattanooga’s thriving downtown. It’s location near Hunter Museum of American Art, and Houston Museum, adds depth to the historical and artistic significance of the experience. Over the years thousands of visitors have enjoyed the District’s beautiful accommodations, internationally acclaimed art, exquisite gardens and world class dining.
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View entire thread: Closing store, ALL equipment and furnishings FOR SALE!
Posted by coffeehouse4sale on 2008-05-26 13:04:52 Post Subject: Closing store, ALL equipment and furnishings FOR SALE!
Hi Everyone,
I''m closing shop and selling everything! All equipment and furnishings are located in Keller TX. Currently I run a successful coffee house there. My website is http://www.otchouse.com. We have a gallery online with hundreds of pictures. If you know anyone who might be interested please let me know. Bulk sale, for best price buyer takes all. Serious inquiries only.
Best regards,
John
Old Town Coffee House
http://www.otchouse.com
http://otchouse.com/images/otchousesm.jpg
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Posted by coffeehouse4sale on 2008-05-26 13:04:52 Post Subject: Closing store, ALL equipment and furnishings FOR SALE!
Hi Everyone,
I''m closing shop and selling everything! All equipment and furnishings are located in Keller TX. Currently I run a successful coffee house there. My website is http://www.otchouse.com. We have a gallery online with hundreds of pictures. If you know anyone who might be interested please let me know. Bulk sale, for best price buyer takes all. Serious inquiries only.
Best regards,
John
Old Town Coffee House
http://www.otchouse.com
http://otchouse.com/images/otchousesm.jpg
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View entire thread: Old Town Coffee House Property for sale! TX
Posted by coffeehouse4sale on 2008-05-25 19:29:35 Post Subject: Old Town Coffee House Property for sale! TX
Hello Everyone,
We have a beautiful piece of property which we currently run a successful coffee house at. It''s a really nice place! Our website is http://www.otchouse.com If you know anyone who may be interested please contact my realtor at the number/email below. Here is the ad:
_____________________________________________________
PRIME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FOR SALE
Historic Old Town Keller, TX
Beautiful, fully renovated building! Hardwood floors, commercial kitchen, 3000+ sf backyard with mature trees. Successful Coffee House/Cafe currently occupies the property. Furnishing and equipment included in sale!! Property is located across from Capital One Bank and their 24hr, 7day electronic teller machines! Great visiblility from busy FM1709 and HWY377. Trully a unique property and rare find! Priced to sell! Visit http://www.otchouse.com for more pictures. DO NOT CONTACT business owners. For more information on this property please contact:
Karen Wilson, REALTOR
Double Eagle Texas Properties
204 South Main, P.O. Box 709
Keller, TX 76244-0709
Office: 817-431-2502
Fax: 817-431-3732
Cell: 817-994-8700
kwilson.realtor@yahoo.com
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Posted by coffeehouse4sale on 2008-05-25 19:29:35 Post Subject: Old Town Coffee House Property for sale! TX
Hello Everyone,
We have a beautiful piece of property which we currently run a successful coffee house at. It''s a really nice place! Our website is http://www.otchouse.com If you know anyone who may be interested please contact my realtor at the number/email below. Here is the ad:
_____________________________________________________
PRIME COMMERCIAL PROPERTY FOR SALE
Historic Old Town Keller, TX
Beautiful, fully renovated building! Hardwood floors, commercial kitchen, 3000+ sf backyard with mature trees. Successful Coffee House/Cafe currently occupies the property. Furnishing and equipment included in sale!! Property is located across from Capital One Bank and their 24hr, 7day electronic teller machines! Great visiblility from busy FM1709 and HWY377. Trully a unique property and rare find! Priced to sell! Visit http://www.otchouse.com for more pictures. DO NOT CONTACT business owners. For more information on this property please contact:
Karen Wilson, REALTOR
Double Eagle Texas Properties
204 South Main, P.O. Box 709
Keller, TX 76244-0709
Office: 817-431-2502
Fax: 817-431-3732
Cell: 817-994-8700
kwilson.realtor@yahoo.com
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View entire thread: Coffee House For Sale In TX
Posted by Java Rocks Tony on 2006-02-28 11:45:30 Post Subject: Coffee House For Sale In TX
FINANCIAL INFORMATION
Gross Revenue 2005: $40,000
Asking Price: $60,000
Current Year Projected Revenue: $70,000. Sales up approx 60-75% over last year.
FF & E (included): $22,000
Inventory (included): $1,500
Real Estate (included): Premises Leased
Seller Financing: Possible with good down pmnt
We are just at the break-even point. All of the start up stuff has been done for you.
COMPANY INFORMATION
Location: Hutto, TX (18mi NE of Austin)
Year Established: 2004
Number of Employees: 1 PT and 1 owner/operator
Facilities
Approximately 1200 square feet with furniture, fixtures and equipment. Medium traffic area, and good visibility location in growing area near the new SR 130. Coffee house is located on the south side of FM79 that contains approx 70% of the city's population and a good portion of businesses.
Market Share
Tremendous growth potential for increased sales. Area is increasing in population monthly. This area has exploded in the last 3 years, and is expected into the end of the decade.
Competition
NONE! NO competition locally or within a 10 mile radius.
Other Information
Support/Training: Owner willing to train for transition period, TBA.
This is an excellent opportunity for an owner/operator. Current PTer may stay. Hours, prices, menu and ambiance have been tweaked & nurtured to where they are now. They are working well. It is advised not to change much. Customer service has been number one priority. If you were to start a coffee house from the ground up, you would spend about my asking price to begin with, but you would not have any customers yet. Doing it this way, you will have customers! Most are repeat, morning customers.
I am not going to sugar coat it and tell you this is perfect for the bored mom, or retired doctor. This is, and will always be A LOT of work. It's worth it though if you can handle it. Most of the pastries are made from scratch on the premises. We also serve fresh made deli style sandwiches for lunch daily. So please, serious inquiries only.
Reason for Sale: Owner Relocating
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Posted by Java Rocks Tony on 2006-02-28 11:45:30 Post Subject: Coffee House For Sale In TX
FINANCIAL INFORMATION
Gross Revenue 2005: $40,000
Asking Price: $60,000
Current Year Projected Revenue: $70,000. Sales up approx 60-75% over last year.
FF & E (included): $22,000
Inventory (included): $1,500
Real Estate (included): Premises Leased
Seller Financing: Possible with good down pmnt
We are just at the break-even point. All of the start up stuff has been done for you.
COMPANY INFORMATION
Location: Hutto, TX (18mi NE of Austin)
Year Established: 2004
Number of Employees: 1 PT and 1 owner/operator
Facilities
Approximately 1200 square feet with furniture, fixtures and equipment. Medium traffic area, and good visibility location in growing area near the new SR 130. Coffee house is located on the south side of FM79 that contains approx 70% of the city's population and a good portion of businesses.
Market Share
Tremendous growth potential for increased sales. Area is increasing in population monthly. This area has exploded in the last 3 years, and is expected into the end of the decade.
Competition
NONE! NO competition locally or within a 10 mile radius.
Other Information
Support/Training: Owner willing to train for transition period, TBA.
This is an excellent opportunity for an owner/operator. Current PTer may stay. Hours, prices, menu and ambiance have been tweaked & nurtured to where they are now. They are working well. It is advised not to change much. Customer service has been number one priority. If you were to start a coffee house from the ground up, you would spend about my asking price to begin with, but you would not have any customers yet. Doing it this way, you will have customers! Most are repeat, morning customers.
I am not going to sugar coat it and tell you this is perfect for the bored mom, or retired doctor. This is, and will always be A LOT of work. It's worth it though if you can handle it. Most of the pastries are made from scratch on the premises. We also serve fresh made deli style sandwiches for lunch daily. So please, serious inquiries only.
Reason for Sale: Owner Relocating
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View entire thread: Wanted: Web Savvy Coffee House Owners
Posted by mark99 on 2008-10-01 17:49:44 Post Subject: Wanted: Web Savvy Coffee House Owners
Hi Everyone, I''m new to the forums here, but have been reading through them for a week or so now and found some high quality stuff.
I''m writing because I am with a group that is launching a coffee specific web solution that will help independent coffee house owners manage customers and marketing (think of it as a lite coffee specific CRM).
We''re working with a few shops right now and need 2-3 more as we complete testing and gather user-input so we can perfect the feature set.
The product is completely web based and designed to accomplish 3 things that we found to be persistent problems for independent coffee house owners:
1. It will make your website interactive. Just paste a few lines of code to your site and you can update it with announcements and articles, gather customer feedback, manage testimonials, and build your emailing list. All the data goes to your customer database where it''s analyzed.
2. It will manage your email marketing. It has a complete e-newsletter marketing engine as well as an email marketing engine where you can create and send professional looking emails.
3. It can manage your rewards program. This is light right now and we''re going to be introducing a fuller version shortly, but you can track your customer purchases so you know is buying what and who is up for a free drink.
There is other functionality, but this is the core of it.
Right now we''re looking for 2-3 shops that are tech savvy enough to want to use a product like this. We just need you to start using it, let us know if something isn''t working right, and provide feedback on what you think.
In return, you get it to use it for free for life and we''ll help you set it all up and get it running (you might even learn a thing or two about email marketing and websites).
If you are interested, please send me a message that includes your web address and I''ll provide you with more information. I don''t want to share the site name right now because the look and feel is still being designed for the landing pages.
Like I said, we would really appreciate the feedback from people who are serious about a product like this so please don''t message if you''re just window shopping.
Thank you,
Mark
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Posted by mark99 on 2008-10-01 17:49:44 Post Subject: Wanted: Web Savvy Coffee House Owners
Hi Everyone, I''m new to the forums here, but have been reading through them for a week or so now and found some high quality stuff.
I''m writing because I am with a group that is launching a coffee specific web solution that will help independent coffee house owners manage customers and marketing (think of it as a lite coffee specific CRM).
We''re working with a few shops right now and need 2-3 more as we complete testing and gather user-input so we can perfect the feature set.
The product is completely web based and designed to accomplish 3 things that we found to be persistent problems for independent coffee house owners:
1. It will make your website interactive. Just paste a few lines of code to your site and you can update it with announcements and articles, gather customer feedback, manage testimonials, and build your emailing list. All the data goes to your customer database where it''s analyzed.
2. It will manage your email marketing. It has a complete e-newsletter marketing engine as well as an email marketing engine where you can create and send professional looking emails.
3. It can manage your rewards program. This is light right now and we''re going to be introducing a fuller version shortly, but you can track your customer purchases so you know is buying what and who is up for a free drink.
There is other functionality, but this is the core of it.
Right now we''re looking for 2-3 shops that are tech savvy enough to want to use a product like this. We just need you to start using it, let us know if something isn''t working right, and provide feedback on what you think.
In return, you get it to use it for free for life and we''ll help you set it all up and get it running (you might even learn a thing or two about email marketing and websites).
If you are interested, please send me a message that includes your web address and I''ll provide you with more information. I don''t want to share the site name right now because the look and feel is still being designed for the landing pages.
Like I said, we would really appreciate the feedback from people who are serious about a product like this so please don''t message if you''re just window shopping.
Thank you,
Mark
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View entire thread: Battle of the Baristas
Posted by barefoot on 2004-10-25 14:12:27 Post Subject: Battle of the Baristas
This is a PR about an event we have coming up. If anyone is in the Bay Area come on out and watch the fun!
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact:
Andy Newbom
Barefoot Coffee Roasters
408-687-3692
info@barefootcoffeeroasters.com
‘Battle of the Baristas’ To Crown The Best Barista In Bay Area
A unique competition pits 14 of the top Baristas from the best espresso bars in the Bay Area in a highly caffeinated battle for coffee supremacy.
SANTA CLARA, Calif., October 27th, 2004 – The Battle of the Baristas will showcase the amazing coffee making talents of some of the best Baristas in the south bay and peninsula areas. Fourteen independent cafes will choose their star Barista to represent them in an “Iron Chefâ€
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Posted by barefoot on 2004-10-25 14:12:27 Post Subject: Battle of the Baristas
This is a PR about an event we have coming up. If anyone is in the Bay Area come on out and watch the fun!
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact:
Andy Newbom
Barefoot Coffee Roasters
408-687-3692
info@barefootcoffeeroasters.com
‘Battle of the Baristas’ To Crown The Best Barista In Bay Area
A unique competition pits 14 of the top Baristas from the best espresso bars in the Bay Area in a highly caffeinated battle for coffee supremacy.
SANTA CLARA, Calif., October 27th, 2004 – The Battle of the Baristas will showcase the amazing coffee making talents of some of the best Baristas in the south bay and peninsula areas. Fourteen independent cafes will choose their star Barista to represent them in an “Iron Chefâ€
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View entire thread: Which name for a coffee house?
Posted by secretgardenbelize on 2004-04-25 14:25:43 Post Subject: Which name for a coffee house?
Which name do you like for a coffee house in a garden setting? Cool Beans, Java Roots or Garden Grinds
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Posted by secretgardenbelize on 2004-04-25 14:25:43 Post Subject: Which name for a coffee house?
Which name do you like for a coffee house in a garden setting? Cool Beans, Java Roots or Garden Grinds
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View entire thread: purchase
Posted by Susan on 2007-01-05 16:05:38 Post Subject: purchase
Hi I would like to purchase a drive up coffee house in the portland area. Do you have any suggestion on where to start?
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Posted by Susan on 2007-01-05 16:05:38 Post Subject: purchase
Hi I would like to purchase a drive up coffee house in the portland area. Do you have any suggestion on where to start?
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View entire thread: Opening a Coffee House
Posted by jcgoldy on 2004-12-01 20:54:08 Post Subject: Opening a Coffee House
Everyone,
What was the average price for a brand new buildout of your new coffee house?
Give all your stories and some of the process, size etc.
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Posted by jcgoldy on 2004-12-01 20:54:08 Post Subject: Opening a Coffee House
Everyone,
What was the average price for a brand new buildout of your new coffee house?
Give all your stories and some of the process, size etc.
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View entire thread: Where can I find used Equipment in Chicago?
Posted by Lurbanowski on 2005-09-21 20:11:04 Post Subject: Where can I find used Equipment in Chicago?
Does anyone know of dealer or resellers which sell equipment, fitures, funiture for someone opening a coffee house? Please let me know I can use any helpful info.
Luke Urbanowski
Chicago,Il
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Posted by Lurbanowski on 2005-09-21 20:11:04 Post Subject: Where can I find used Equipment in Chicago?
Does anyone know of dealer or resellers which sell equipment, fitures, funiture for someone opening a coffee house? Please let me know I can use any helpful info.
Luke Urbanowski
Chicago,Il
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View entire thread: I''m new here to coffee shop owners need some advise..
Posted by kouhii on 2007-09-29 10:42:11 Post Subject: I''m new here to coffee shop owners need some advise..
Well I want to make a good company profile for a coffee house but I have no Idea on what I should place in the profile. So any Ideas? any help will be needed.
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Posted by kouhii on 2007-09-29 10:42:11 Post Subject: I''m new here to coffee shop owners need some advise..
Well I want to make a good company profile for a coffee house but I have no Idea on what I should place in the profile. So any Ideas? any help will be needed.
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View entire thread: New coffee house in tampa... layout ??
Posted by Insomniacs_Coffee_House on 2006-04-03 09:30:05 Post Subject: New coffee house in tampa... layout ??
I am opening an all night coffee house in the tampa area.
I have 1500 sq feet. (25' wide x 60' deep). Any suggestions on layout?
Also, Any suggestions on good accounting software, or should i hust hire a professional?
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Posted by Insomniacs_Coffee_House on 2006-04-03 09:30:05 Post Subject: New coffee house in tampa... layout ??
I am opening an all night coffee house in the tampa area.
I have 1500 sq feet. (25' wide x 60' deep). Any suggestions on layout?
Also, Any suggestions on good accounting software, or should i hust hire a professional?
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View entire thread: Suggestions/opinions about new site
Posted by yoxy14 on 2008-10-05 09:04:30 Post Subject: Suggestions/opinions about new site
Hello coffee fans, I just finished working on a new website for a coffee house in Findlay, OH, if some of your could check out the site in my profile and let me know what you think I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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Posted by yoxy14 on 2008-10-05 09:04:30 Post Subject: Suggestions/opinions about new site
Hello coffee fans, I just finished working on a new website for a coffee house in Findlay, OH, if some of your could check out the site in my profile and let me know what you think I would appreciate it. Thanks.
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View entire thread: Vancouver Canada, seeking a Partner
Posted by Coffee_Boy on 2005-08-30 23:13:33 Post Subject: Vancouver Canada, seeking a Partner
I am looking at opening a Coffee House in the Vancouver area shortly.
I am considering bringing in a partner...is there anyone in the Vancouver area that needs a change.....or wants to work part time while still maintaing their "day job". Let me know.
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Posted by Coffee_Boy on 2005-08-30 23:13:33 Post Subject: Vancouver Canada, seeking a Partner
I am looking at opening a Coffee House in the Vancouver area shortly.
I am considering bringing in a partner...is there anyone in the Vancouver area that needs a change.....or wants to work part time while still maintaing their "day job". Let me know.
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View entire thread: Search for coffee hang out...
Posted by GypZ on 2005-01-03 14:07:03 Post Subject: Search for coffee hang out...
I am from a college town and just to Dallas (Addison actually) and I miss the coffee houses. You know you just drink and smoke and watch the world or play chess or read...live bands sometimes...a coffee house...
Anybody know of any around here? Dying to sit and scetch strangers for hours...
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Posted by GypZ on 2005-01-03 14:07:03 Post Subject: Search for coffee hang out...
I am from a college town and just to Dallas (Addison actually) and I miss the coffee houses. You know you just drink and smoke and watch the world or play chess or read...live bands sometimes...a coffee house...
Anybody know of any around here? Dying to sit and scetch strangers for hours...
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View entire thread: What kind of coffee maker should i get/look for?
Posted by coffeenerd on 2005-10-03 21:49:45 Post Subject: What kind of coffee maker should i get/look for?
HI, i'm opening my coffee shop next month and am completely confused as to what machines i need..can you tell me for a small coffee house what kind of coffee machine i would need and if i have more than one different kinds of coffee do i need separate machines?..thanks for any reply.
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Posted by coffeenerd on 2005-10-03 21:49:45 Post Subject: What kind of coffee maker should i get/look for?
HI, i'm opening my coffee shop next month and am completely confused as to what machines i need..can you tell me for a small coffee house what kind of coffee machine i would need and if i have more than one different kinds of coffee do i need separate machines?..thanks for any reply.
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View entire thread: Cool free resource for coffee houses
Posted by skyewld on 2007-09-26 22:13:03 Post Subject: Cool free resource for coffee houses
Hi all,
I just ran into a cool website that lists coffee house''s and their
contact information for free. Plus, you can list any music or any other kind of event that you might be having. Just thought it might help if you''d like
to get your business online. Its coffeehousecorner.com. Hope this helps.
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Posted by skyewld on 2007-09-26 22:13:03 Post Subject: Cool free resource for coffee houses
Hi all,
I just ran into a cool website that lists coffee house''s and their
contact information for free. Plus, you can list any music or any other kind of event that you might be having. Just thought it might help if you''d like
to get your business online. Its coffeehousecorner.com. Hope this helps.
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View entire thread: specialty coffee orders
Posted by wade on 2004-04-18 22:18:32 Post Subject: specialty coffee orders
What method of ordering specialty coffees is the best way for the barista?
Is there a way that makes things run real smooth and doesn't confuse everybody ?
We have not opened our coffee house yet.
We will have a separate line for the brew coffee.
I just want to make sure the specialty coffee orders come in organised and not get all mixed up. I would greatly appreciate some advice.
Thankyou
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Posted by wade on 2004-04-18 22:18:32 Post Subject: specialty coffee orders
What method of ordering specialty coffees is the best way for the barista?
Is there a way that makes things run real smooth and doesn't confuse everybody ?
We have not opened our coffee house yet.
We will have a separate line for the brew coffee.
I just want to make sure the specialty coffee orders come in organised and not get all mixed up. I would greatly appreciate some advice.
Thankyou
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View entire thread: How much did it cost YOU to start up?
Posted by GA_John on 2005-01-13 22:11:59 Post Subject: How much did it cost YOU to start up?
I thought this might be a good question to throw out to the group.
How much did it take in initial startup to get you business started?
Did you start a kiosk, coffee house, etc?
How long before you were profitable?
I think the folks that have been at this for awhile would be providing a great service to those who are about to embark in business.
Thanks in advance for your replies
GA_John
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Posted by GA_John on 2005-01-13 22:11:59 Post Subject: How much did it cost YOU to start up?
I thought this might be a good question to throw out to the group.
How much did it take in initial startup to get you business started?
Did you start a kiosk, coffee house, etc?
How long before you were profitable?
I think the folks that have been at this for awhile would be providing a great service to those who are about to embark in business.
Thanks in advance for your replies
GA_John
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View entire thread: Coffee Tables
Posted by nickmuso on 2008-01-23 11:56:54 Post Subject: Coffee Tables
Hi,
If there's anyone from London or the South of England out there who is starting up a high quality coffee house and wants a quote for coffee tables, that is what I make. Visit http://www.thecoffeetable.co.uk to have a look at my work.
Mods, I read the rules carefully before posting my url and it seems that this is permitted, I wont be posting it again anywhere on the forums, I promise.
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Posted by nickmuso on 2008-01-23 11:56:54 Post Subject: Coffee Tables
Hi,
If there's anyone from London or the South of England out there who is starting up a high quality coffee house and wants a quote for coffee tables, that is what I make. Visit http://www.thecoffeetable.co.uk to have a look at my work.
Mods, I read the rules carefully before posting my url and it seems that this is permitted, I wont be posting it again anywhere on the forums, I promise.
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View entire thread: FEEDBACK on SALES ESTIMATE AVERAGES....
Posted by Juliann Castell on 2006-04-29 10:16:22 Post Subject: FEEDBACK on SALES ESTIMATE AVERAGES....
Any feedback/thoughts and advice:
This is to be used for my estimates for sales for total volume and sales for a business plan: Coffee House - suburban community (not core downtown but mid to mid-upper class development of currently 7k residents
Assumptions:
$1.65 100 percent of sales coffee sales
add on $2.00 (50% of coffee sales will be specialty)
add on $5.00 (50% of sales will include food)
-- then I take these figures and multiply by my optimistic and pessimistic volumes for M-F; S/S. e.g., 100/150 and 150/200.
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Posted by Juliann Castell on 2006-04-29 10:16:22 Post Subject: FEEDBACK on SALES ESTIMATE AVERAGES....
Any feedback/thoughts and advice:
This is to be used for my estimates for sales for total volume and sales for a business plan: Coffee House - suburban community (not core downtown but mid to mid-upper class development of currently 7k residents
Assumptions:
$1.65 100 percent of sales coffee sales
add on $2.00 (50% of coffee sales will be specialty)
add on $5.00 (50% of sales will include food)
-- then I take these figures and multiply by my optimistic and pessimistic volumes for M-F; S/S. e.g., 100/150 and 150/200.
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View entire thread: Anyone used a Tiamo before?
Posted by FreeHelp on 2005-04-06 04:22:43 Post Subject: Anyone used a Tiamo before?
Will someone pls clarify if this Filter Drip machine e.g. http://www.gardfoods.com/coffee/coffee.prepare.htm is a.k.a. a Drip machine. It's strange because in Singapore, it is known as a percolator but it seems there is another machine named percolator in the same site. I assume that is correct.
I inherited a Tiamo ice-drip coffee machine like the ones used here in TCC coffee house see 1st image on this intro: http://www.tccasia.com.sg/ details in: http://www.tccasia.com.sg/senseb8.asp
I just cant find the manufacturer's website nor any instructions on how to brew an ice coffee. Any1 can help?
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Posted by FreeHelp on 2005-04-06 04:22:43 Post Subject: Anyone used a Tiamo before?
Will someone pls clarify if this Filter Drip machine e.g. http://www.gardfoods.com/coffee/coffee.prepare.htm is a.k.a. a Drip machine. It's strange because in Singapore, it is known as a percolator but it seems there is another machine named percolator in the same site. I assume that is correct.
I inherited a Tiamo ice-drip coffee machine like the ones used here in TCC coffee house see 1st image on this intro: http://www.tccasia.com.sg/ details in: http://www.tccasia.com.sg/senseb8.asp
I just cant find the manufacturer's website nor any instructions on how to brew an ice coffee. Any1 can help?
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View entire thread: Marcuzzi Elegance / Expobar
Posted by Roaming on 2005-12-04 06:23:20 Post Subject: Marcuzzi Elegance / Expobar
Anybody have any experience with or opinions about the Marcuzzi Elegance One Group w/grinder (also seen it called Expobar). Am considering that for a coffee house versus a unit with a separate grinder.
From what I've been reading, the grinder makes a big difference but I've not read anything about using an integrated grinder versus a separate one. I would suppose that it depends on the quality of the integrated grinder, and I've not found any comments about the unit I have in mind.
Any comments would be appreciated.
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Posted by Roaming on 2005-12-04 06:23:20 Post Subject: Marcuzzi Elegance / Expobar
Anybody have any experience with or opinions about the Marcuzzi Elegance One Group w/grinder (also seen it called Expobar). Am considering that for a coffee house versus a unit with a separate grinder.
From what I've been reading, the grinder makes a big difference but I've not read anything about using an integrated grinder versus a separate one. I would suppose that it depends on the quality of the integrated grinder, and I've not found any comments about the unit I have in mind.
Any comments would be appreciated.
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View entire thread: Confused by espresso machines
Posted by bizzie on 2004-04-08 08:27:43 Post Subject: Confused by espresso machines
I am in the process of opening my coffee house. I have about 3 weeks before I gain access to the house, and would like to do the build out in no more than 6 weeks, and I am restless because I have not yet found an espresso machine. I expect high volume, I am near a very large campus, not to mention the area I am in is near many businesses as well. I need something dependable, 3-group, and something that won't take a very long time for delivery. Could someone please recommend an espresso machine? I want to keep it under or near 6,000.
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Posted by bizzie on 2004-04-08 08:27:43 Post Subject: Confused by espresso machines
I am in the process of opening my coffee house. I have about 3 weeks before I gain access to the house, and would like to do the build out in no more than 6 weeks, and I am restless because I have not yet found an espresso machine. I expect high volume, I am near a very large campus, not to mention the area I am in is near many businesses as well. I need something dependable, 3-group, and something that won't take a very long time for delivery. Could someone please recommend an espresso machine? I want to keep it under or near 6,000.
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View entire thread: Live music
Posted by scottdanzig on 2006-01-17 03:42:10 Post Subject: Live music
I'm envisioning my future coffee house, and I'm thinking about providing a gentle variety of live music. I'll be a first-time startup, so cost is always a concern, but I'm hoping to lean on the experience of people here in terms of how much extra business I can expect from it. For those of you that have provided live music (single event or all day), what type of performer(s) did you employ, and what sort of results did you get? What sort of pay is typical for such performers (assuming they're not bad but not the best of the best either). Any information or advice is appreciated. Thanks.
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Posted by scottdanzig on 2006-01-17 03:42:10 Post Subject: Live music
I'm envisioning my future coffee house, and I'm thinking about providing a gentle variety of live music. I'll be a first-time startup, so cost is always a concern, but I'm hoping to lean on the experience of people here in terms of how much extra business I can expect from it. For those of you that have provided live music (single event or all day), what type of performer(s) did you employ, and what sort of results did you get? What sort of pay is typical for such performers (assuming they're not bad but not the best of the best either). Any information or advice is appreciated. Thanks.
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View entire thread: Fun new add ons to increase retail sales
Posted by caffe_sheryl on 2005-12-19 13:22:13 Post Subject: Fun new add ons to increase retail sales
Caffe, LLC is a coffee based skincare line designed to help people enjoy their favorite beverage in a new way, on their skin. We carry lotions, lip balms and several other items that can be placed on the counter to entice your patrons into spending a bit more in your coffee house. Items are available in 8 oz sizes as well as the more convenient 2 oz size. All items are available in traditional coffee scents; Espresso, Mocha, Vanilla Latte and Almond Latte. We also carry Holiday Scents. For Christmas we've added Eggnog Latte (limited time only). These items are a coffee lovers dream come true. Contact me at caffe_sheryl@yahoo.com for more info and check out the website at
www.caffeskincare.com
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Posted by caffe_sheryl on 2005-12-19 13:22:13 Post Subject: Fun new add ons to increase retail sales
Caffe, LLC is a coffee based skincare line designed to help people enjoy their favorite beverage in a new way, on their skin. We carry lotions, lip balms and several other items that can be placed on the counter to entice your patrons into spending a bit more in your coffee house. Items are available in 8 oz sizes as well as the more convenient 2 oz size. All items are available in traditional coffee scents; Espresso, Mocha, Vanilla Latte and Almond Latte. We also carry Holiday Scents. For Christmas we've added Eggnog Latte (limited time only). These items are a coffee lovers dream come true. Contact me at caffe_sheryl@yahoo.com for more info and check out the website at
www.caffeskincare.com
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View entire thread: Coffee Shop For Sale (TX)
Posted by coffeeshop on 2006-05-12 13:19:31 Post Subject: Coffee Shop For Sale (TX)
10+ year old coffee house FOR SALE just north of Austin, TX in rapidly growing suburb. Single location in strip mall on main highway. Easy access at lighted intersection. Tons of parking. Traffic counts exceed 45,000 week days, 60,000+ on weekends. Landlord relationship A+ with this long term tenant business.
Approx 1600sf cafe offers fresh brew daily, espresso based standards, frappes, bubble teas, smoothies. Also offers fresh pastries daily, lunch items and made-to-order baked goods.
2005 Small Business of the Year recipient, this shop hosts an annual fun run/walk that has donated over $50K to area non-profits and park projects.
Gross in '05 was $170,000. Tons of opportunity to grow it your way.
Owner looking at other business ventures.
Asking $129,900. Serious inquiries only. Email me your contact information and we will call you directly! coffeeshop@austin.rr.com
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Posted by coffeeshop on 2006-05-12 13:19:31 Post Subject: Coffee Shop For Sale (TX)
10+ year old coffee house FOR SALE just north of Austin, TX in rapidly growing suburb. Single location in strip mall on main highway. Easy access at lighted intersection. Tons of parking. Traffic counts exceed 45,000 week days, 60,000+ on weekends. Landlord relationship A+ with this long term tenant business.
Approx 1600sf cafe offers fresh brew daily, espresso based standards, frappes, bubble teas, smoothies. Also offers fresh pastries daily, lunch items and made-to-order baked goods.
2005 Small Business of the Year recipient, this shop hosts an annual fun run/walk that has donated over $50K to area non-profits and park projects.
Gross in '05 was $170,000. Tons of opportunity to grow it your way.
Owner looking at other business ventures.
Asking $129,900. Serious inquiries only. Email me your contact information and we will call you directly! coffeeshop@austin.rr.com
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View entire thread: Looking for roasters/barista training in South Florida
Posted by AHJ on 2006-11-15 18:43:04 Post Subject: Looking for roasters/barista training in South Florida
I am seriously considering acquiring a small coffee house/gelato place in south florida that is for sale. I have been looking at their numbers and although their sales are low, after visiting the place for hours I think that it is mainly due to bad management (absent owner) and their product being less than perfect. (The girl who served me today didnt know how to make a capuccino when I asked her for one, she had to ask the other employee working there... no comment).
Anyway, I am looking for a new roaster that would be willing to provide us with well, coffee, and also training with the machinery. They use a LaCimbali grinder and espresso machine, but I do not know who is their current coffee provider.
Thnx in advance to anyone who is willing to give me a list of names and/or contact numbers.
AHJ
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Posted by AHJ on 2006-11-15 18:43:04 Post Subject: Looking for roasters/barista training in South Florida
I am seriously considering acquiring a small coffee house/gelato place in south florida that is for sale. I have been looking at their numbers and although their sales are low, after visiting the place for hours I think that it is mainly due to bad management (absent owner) and their product being less than perfect. (The girl who served me today didnt know how to make a capuccino when I asked her for one, she had to ask the other employee working there... no comment).
Anyway, I am looking for a new roaster that would be willing to provide us with well, coffee, and also training with the machinery. They use a LaCimbali grinder and espresso machine, but I do not know who is their current coffee provider.
Thnx in advance to anyone who is willing to give me a list of names and/or contact numbers.
AHJ
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View entire thread: End Of The Line Cafe, Pensacola, Commune based coffee house
Posted by microserf on 2004-04-09 18:25:38 Post Subject: End Of The Line Cafe, Pensacola, Commune based coffee house
Hello everyone!
EOTL is a commune bassed coffee house. They have musicians and fundraisers constantly to keep the commune going. I was wondering if there were any governmental alternative financing or funding sources that they could tap, to keep the dream alive?
I've seen some late night ad in passing, referring to government grants to start coffee houses, but have no idea if that is a real statement or not. I'd appreciate any and all feedback. The peeps that work there bust their asses to keep it going, often giving funds from their own daytime jobs to keep the doors open. It would be nice to find additional sources of support for them.
Here is EOTL Cafe's website. It's pretty horrid, but they seem to be newbies at the net. Sheesh, they don't even have enough funds to purchase their own domain name and hosting!
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/bigredcanuc ... index2.htm
Best regards,
ms
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Posted by microserf on 2004-04-09 18:25:38 Post Subject: End Of The Line Cafe, Pensacola, Commune based coffee house
Hello everyone!
EOTL is a commune bassed coffee house. They have musicians and fundraisers constantly to keep the commune going. I was wondering if there were any governmental alternative financing or funding sources that they could tap, to keep the dream alive?
I've seen some late night ad in passing, referring to government grants to start coffee houses, but have no idea if that is a real statement or not. I'd appreciate any and all feedback. The peeps that work there bust their asses to keep it going, often giving funds from their own daytime jobs to keep the doors open. It would be nice to find additional sources of support for them.
Here is EOTL Cafe's website. It's pretty horrid, but they seem to be newbies at the net. Sheesh, they don't even have enough funds to purchase their own domain name and hosting!
http://bellsouthpwp.net/b/i/bigredcanuc ... index2.htm
Best regards,
ms
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View entire thread: Get extra revenue - would LOVE your feedback!
Posted by Andrea on 2007-01-23 02:53:35 Post Subject: Get extra revenue - would LOVE your feedback!
Hi there coffee house owners!
We are a start up company whose goal is to create an extra stream of revenue for independent America. What we would like to do is sell award winning independent films through independent coffee houses, like yours. You would not invest any money whatsoever to be part of the program and your cafe would receive 40-50% of each DVD sold in the cafe as well as a percentage of online sales.
Right now we are in research phase, introducing ourselves to cafes and getting feedback from cafe owners. I would love to talk with any of you for just a few minutes about the idea. Or, if you like the idea and would like me to contact you when the company launches, please just email me with your contact info and I will put you on the list.
Thanks so much for reading and I look forward to hearing your thoughts!
All the best,
Andrea Schell
andrea@releasedentertainment.com
310-902-1467
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Posted by Andrea on 2007-01-23 02:53:35 Post Subject: Get extra revenue - would LOVE your feedback!
Hi there coffee house owners!
We are a start up company whose goal is to create an extra stream of revenue for independent America. What we would like to do is sell award winning independent films through independent coffee houses, like yours. You would not invest any money whatsoever to be part of the program and your cafe would receive 40-50% of each DVD sold in the cafe as well as a percentage of online sales.
Right now we are in research phase, introducing ourselves to cafes and getting feedback from cafe owners. I would love to talk with any of you for just a few minutes about the idea. Or, if you like the idea and would like me to contact you when the company launches, please just email me with your contact info and I will put you on the list.
Thanks so much for reading and I look forward to hearing your thoughts!
All the best,
Andrea Schell
andrea@releasedentertainment.com
310-902-1467
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View entire thread: FUZION new Coffee House Dallas area
Posted by utraju07 on 2004-02-18 20:22:44 Post Subject: FUZION new Coffee House Dallas area
Hey all THere is a New Coffee House In the Dallas TX area particularly Richardson. Name FUZION. It has Coffee products smoothies and Bubble Tea. They have tried to bring live environment to the Suburb area. There is a stage for Live Entertainment with is used every friday for Poetry Slam and Saturday for Live Bands in the evening. THey have a large screen TV.
Fuzion lets you mix and match ur drinks. You could get hazelnut latte, peppermint latte white cherry mocha, bananna mocha etc. and they don't even charge extra for syrups. THe price is much better Than Starbucks.
Small which is 12 oz is like $2.45 medium 16 oz is aprox $2.95 and
large 20 oz is $3.25.
Comfortable Leather Couches. Local Environment in the suburb of Richardson. Located near University of Texas at Dallas
Free Wireless Internet and 2 computer that you can use for Free Cool thing they are open from 7am till 2am in the morning. Heck Ya.
Check it out the website is www.fuzionlounge.com. We welcome Feedback from everyone as the Owners are Young Entrepreneurs who are open to helpful feedback helping them to suceed
exact add
581 W. Campbell Rd. #129
Richardson, TX 75080
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Posted by utraju07 on 2004-02-18 20:22:44 Post Subject: FUZION new Coffee House Dallas area
Hey all THere is a New Coffee House In the Dallas TX area particularly Richardson. Name FUZION. It has Coffee products smoothies and Bubble Tea. They have tried to bring live environment to the Suburb area. There is a stage for Live Entertainment with is used every friday for Poetry Slam and Saturday for Live Bands in the evening. THey have a large screen TV.
Fuzion lets you mix and match ur drinks. You could get hazelnut latte, peppermint latte white cherry mocha, bananna mocha etc. and they don't even charge extra for syrups. THe price is much better Than Starbucks.
Small which is 12 oz is like $2.45 medium 16 oz is aprox $2.95 and
large 20 oz is $3.25.
Comfortable Leather Couches. Local Environment in the suburb of Richardson. Located near University of Texas at Dallas
Free Wireless Internet and 2 computer that you can use for Free Cool thing they are open from 7am till 2am in the morning. Heck Ya.
Check it out the website is www.fuzionlounge.com. We welcome Feedback from everyone as the Owners are Young Entrepreneurs who are open to helpful feedback helping them to suceed
exact add
581 W. Campbell Rd. #129
Richardson, TX 75080
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View entire thread: Looking for Organic/Fair Trade Coffee
Posted by OMO Sapien on 2006-08-15 23:46:34 Post Subject: Looking for Organic/Fair Trade Coffee
Howdy folks,
I'm looking for any coffee spots that brew Organic and Fair Trade coffee on a DAILY basis --not once in a blue moon like some corporate chains we won't mention. We want to promote these conscientious businesses in a 100% non-commercial, ad-free Directory designed just for them.
It can be anything from a classic coffee house atmosphere, to a market that offers a fine variety of sustainable roasts for your homebrews or puts out a few thermoses, to a cafe where you can get a quick cup-to-go....even one of those Fotomart-looking drive-up thingys in a parking lot. If they have the Good Stuff, we want to give them a listing!
And of course, if you are looking for such a place in your neighborhood or on a cross-coountry journey, come check us out....we already have 150+ listings and counting.
www.omeanso.org/ogftcoffee
If you have a suggestion for a listing, feel free to drop the name here, or you can visit our Directory page for an easy form.
BUSINESS OWNERS: if you fit our profile and want to be listed, visit
www.omeanso.org/coffeesurvey. In just a few minutes you can give us all the info we need to make an attractive listing. And it's COMPLETELY FREE!
Thanks! We appreciate the forum & chance to share this info with the community. Cheers & be well....
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Posted by OMO Sapien on 2006-08-15 23:46:34 Post Subject: Looking for Organic/Fair Trade Coffee
Howdy folks,
I'm looking for any coffee spots that brew Organic and Fair Trade coffee on a DAILY basis --not once in a blue moon like some corporate chains we won't mention. We want to promote these conscientious businesses in a 100% non-commercial, ad-free Directory designed just for them.
It can be anything from a classic coffee house atmosphere, to a market that offers a fine variety of sustainable roasts for your homebrews or puts out a few thermoses, to a cafe where you can get a quick cup-to-go....even one of those Fotomart-looking drive-up thingys in a parking lot. If they have the Good Stuff, we want to give them a listing!
And of course, if you are looking for such a place in your neighborhood or on a cross-coountry journey, come check us out....we already have 150+ listings and counting.
www.omeanso.org/ogftcoffee
If you have a suggestion for a listing, feel free to drop the name here, or you can visit our Directory page for an easy form.
BUSINESS OWNERS: if you fit our profile and want to be listed, visit
www.omeanso.org/coffeesurvey. In just a few minutes you can give us all the info we need to make an attractive listing. And it's COMPLETELY FREE!
Thanks! We appreciate the forum & chance to share this info with the community. Cheers & be well....
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View entire thread: Traffic Count & Average Sales?
Posted by Mocha Psyc on 2006-02-26 19:28:03 Post Subject: Traffic Count & Average Sales?
Watching two new coffee shops open here in town has me thinking; just exactly what am I missing?
The two new stores could not be more different. One is a brand new drive through only (Java Joes) on a street that has a 46k traffic count BUT also has 4 other coffee houses on the same street within a 2 mile radius.
The second is a free standing location (Janus Coffee House), also with a drive window but a storefront as well, that's on the PM side of a street that likely on draws 4k a day. This store is located just down the street from a Starbucks which is inside a Target Super Center. This is a BIG BUCKS store too - I'm thinking $250k minimum to open.
All of this in a town with a population of 164,000 (but growing VERY fast - think boom town here). The two new stores are joining a total of 11 pre-existing coffee shops, bringing the total to 13! And then there's me and my plan to open another location. Assuming I succeed, we're now at 14 coffee shops!
OK, so here's my real question. I have a spreadsheet that gives me profitability based on several factors. Two of which are customer count and average ticket price. The customer count is driven off of traffic count - so I'm comfortable with that number. But average sale has me confused.
My assumptions are based on what I spend when I go in a coffee shop - around $4.25. But what is the "real" average?
I was in a shop last week and I rang out at about $5.50 since my wife was with me, a second customer had a $14 ticket, and a third was at $1.50. So, this suggests an average of $7 a customer. But - since I had my wife with me do we count her as a customer? If so, that brings the customer count to 4 and decreases the average sale to $5.25. Still a good number - but is it substainable? What say you?
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Posted by Mocha Psyc on 2006-02-26 19:28:03 Post Subject: Traffic Count & Average Sales?
Watching two new coffee shops open here in town has me thinking; just exactly what am I missing?
The two new stores could not be more different. One is a brand new drive through only (Java Joes) on a street that has a 46k traffic count BUT also has 4 other coffee houses on the same street within a 2 mile radius.
The second is a free standing location (Janus Coffee House), also with a drive window but a storefront as well, that's on the PM side of a street that likely on draws 4k a day. This store is located just down the street from a Starbucks which is inside a Target Super Center. This is a BIG BUCKS store too - I'm thinking $250k minimum to open.
All of this in a town with a population of 164,000 (but growing VERY fast - think boom town here). The two new stores are joining a total of 11 pre-existing coffee shops, bringing the total to 13! And then there's me and my plan to open another location. Assuming I succeed, we're now at 14 coffee shops!
OK, so here's my real question. I have a spreadsheet that gives me profitability based on several factors. Two of which are customer count and average ticket price. The customer count is driven off of traffic count - so I'm comfortable with that number. But average sale has me confused.
My assumptions are based on what I spend when I go in a coffee shop - around $4.25. But what is the "real" average?
I was in a shop last week and I rang out at about $5.50 since my wife was with me, a second customer had a $14 ticket, and a third was at $1.50. So, this suggests an average of $7 a customer. But - since I had my wife with me do we count her as a customer? If so, that brings the customer count to 4 and decreases the average sale to $5.25. Still a good number - but is it substainable? What say you?
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View entire thread: Adding new rules
Posted by CCafe on 2008-07-10 13:35:56 Post Subject: Adding new rules
Anyone opposed to adding some additional rules and or adjusting old ones.
I would like to add company promoting to line 2. We seem to get one or two a month that post for the sole purpose of promoting there own coffee house. They usually do it in the Shops & Cafes section. I moved cafekili's post to the B2B because of just that.
I think we could benefit with a Hijacking rule. I know we have all done it in the past. But threads like http://www.coffeeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1592 have gotten to large and has been hijacked a few times already. I think adding trolling to this would also be advised. Trolling post older then 6 - 9 months really should be split in to a new post. In few cases people have trolled old post just to hijack them. I don't mind trolling when a person is trying to find out how the author is currently doing.
We need to add Bump, or bumping to our list of not allowed.
Racial slurs will not be tolerated and should be added.
Line 5 makes a statement about copying someone's postings within the site. We do allow quotes and therefore give that person credit internally. But a lot of people lately have been copying articles from around the web with out giving credit to the original author or the website from which at has been taken.
If we don't take plagiarism a little more seriously then how are people supposed to take our forum serious in the first place.
These are just a few things I would like to see added.
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Posted by CCafe on 2008-07-10 13:35:56 Post Subject: Adding new rules
Anyone opposed to adding some additional rules and or adjusting old ones.
I would like to add company promoting to line 2. We seem to get one or two a month that post for the sole purpose of promoting there own coffee house. They usually do it in the Shops & Cafes section. I moved cafekili's post to the B2B because of just that.
I think we could benefit with a Hijacking rule. I know we have all done it in the past. But threads like http://www.coffeeforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=1592 have gotten to large and has been hijacked a few times already. I think adding trolling to this would also be advised. Trolling post older then 6 - 9 months really should be split in to a new post. In few cases people have trolled old post just to hijack them. I don't mind trolling when a person is trying to find out how the author is currently doing.
We need to add Bump, or bumping to our list of not allowed.
Racial slurs will not be tolerated and should be added.
Line 5 makes a statement about copying someone's postings within the site. We do allow quotes and therefore give that person credit internally. But a lot of people lately have been copying articles from around the web with out giving credit to the original author or the website from which at has been taken.
If we don't take plagiarism a little more seriously then how are people supposed to take our forum serious in the first place.
These are just a few things I would like to see added.
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View entire thread: help me choose
Posted by itpreview on 2008-11-10 21:48:22 Post Subject:
Semi-automatic espresso machines featuring an electric brewing pump which is manually turned on and off by the user. These machines are relatively simple to operate and with a little practice you can create rich, authentic espresso, cappuccino and latte as good or better than any coffee house. Some experimentation is required to achieve a perfect espresso; however, the main variables are limited to coffee bean quality, grind fineness and tamp pressure. Each of the semi-auto machines we carry includes a steam wand to froth milk for preparing cappuccino and latte.
Automatic espresso machines are essentially the same as semi-auto units with the added convenience of automatic brew volume controls. Once the machine is loaded with ground coffee and ready to brew, you simply push a button for one or two shots; the pump turns on then automatically shuts off when the preset brew volume is reached (in contrast semi-auto units require the user to manually turn off the pump when desired). These machines are relatively simple to operate and with a little practice you can create rich, authentic espresso, cappuccino and latte as good or better than any coffee house. Some experimentation is required to achieve a perfect espresso; however, the main variables are limited to coffee bean quality, grind fineness and tamp pressure. Each of the automatic machines we carry includes a steam wand to froth milk for preparing cappuccino and latte.
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Posted by itpreview on 2008-11-10 21:48:22 Post Subject:
Semi-automatic espresso machines featuring an electric brewing pump which is manually turned on and off by the user. These machines are relatively simple to operate and with a little practice you can create rich, authentic espresso, cappuccino and latte as good or better than any coffee house. Some experimentation is required to achieve a perfect espresso; however, the main variables are limited to coffee bean quality, grind fineness and tamp pressure. Each of the semi-auto machines we carry includes a steam wand to froth milk for preparing cappuccino and latte.
Automatic espresso machines are essentially the same as semi-auto units with the added convenience of automatic brew volume controls. Once the machine is loaded with ground coffee and ready to brew, you simply push a button for one or two shots; the pump turns on then automatically shuts off when the preset brew volume is reached (in contrast semi-auto units require the user to manually turn off the pump when desired). These machines are relatively simple to operate and with a little practice you can create rich, authentic espresso, cappuccino and latte as good or better than any coffee house. Some experimentation is required to achieve a perfect espresso; however, the main variables are limited to coffee bean quality, grind fineness and tamp pressure. Each of the automatic machines we carry includes a steam wand to froth milk for preparing cappuccino and latte.
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View entire thread: OPINION OPINIONS!!! Theme and concept testing here...
Posted by Juliann Castell on 2006-05-31 23:25:26 Post Subject: OPINION OPINIONS!!! Theme and concept testing here...
I have a vision for my coffee house that I'd like to test:
I'm going to open a coffee house - in a suburban community - in the middle of a development - literally surrounded by schools, parks and houses, houses, houses (not a lot of retail around because it's a newer area).
My coffee house will attract Moms, Dads, couples and of course kids at times.
I will sell espresso, coffees, ice cream and a simple menu.
OPINION? I plan on having chairs/tables and 2 couch/nice chair seating areas. I'd like to have a plasma tv on the wall to market "Apprentice Night" or "Survivor Night" or the like - some way of getting folks in in the evening for nice coffee/desserts. I'm also thinking Book Club meetings etc. as a marketing ploy. What do you think? Especially re: tv (not on all time of course - just for special times...)
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Posted by Juliann Castell on 2006-05-31 23:25:26 Post Subject: OPINION OPINIONS!!! Theme and concept testing here...
I have a vision for my coffee house that I'd like to test:
I'm going to open a coffee house - in a suburban community - in the middle of a development - literally surrounded by schools, parks and houses, houses, houses (not a lot of retail around because it's a newer area).
My coffee house will attract Moms, Dads, couples and of course kids at times.
I will sell espresso, coffees, ice cream and a simple menu.
OPINION? I plan on having chairs/tables and 2 couch/nice chair seating areas. I'd like to have a plasma tv on the wall to market "Apprentice Night" or "Survivor Night" or the like - some way of getting folks in in the evening for nice coffee/desserts. I'm also thinking Book Club meetings etc. as a marketing ploy. What do you think? Especially re: tv (not on all time of course - just for special times...)
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View entire thread: from coffee house > roasting > coffee house?
Posted by little roastHer on 2007-04-11 14:54:12 Post Subject: from coffee house > roasting > coffee house?
hello,
I started a new coffee roasting business from my home. I love what I do, yet do miss the "people" contact - Recently I found out a local coffee house was opening and my name got out , I was contacted and offered a job... (I used to manage a coffee house they found out)
The birthing of my new roasting business came out of the closing of a nice coffee house after a few years in operation. I managed this coffee house and really miss it...I was offered the roaster and beans, etc..to start up at my home..no regrets.. however...the new owner has a supplier out of state and has told me that they are not "locked" in to any contract as far as bringing "other" beans in...kinda odd....wondering where I fit in here....makes more sense for me to be the "supplier", non? AFter all, I am LOCAL. This new coffee house would love to have their own label with my beans though - not a prob...a new area , should I expect them to pay more for this or not -
Question...Is this something I, a new roaster, should venture into...have a relationship with a coffee shop by being employed.. ( a pay check would be nice...what should I get paid ? ) perhaps getting my label out there is not a bad motive either.....or should roasthers in the business of coffee roasting just keep to themselves - not strap themselves to anything else , unles s the shop is mine of course... I really can't wait to get my hands on the espresso machine..it's been soOOo long...
I'm busy but not that busy..sales are doing better since an article went into the local paper - and I do have so much flexibility.... Would the best arrangement be to have a "contract" agreement, instead of being an employee? ...maybe offering my services (and expertise in making espresso based drinks, etc..) what do any of you think.... not to boast, but I know many people from my previous employement and this could be helpful to this new coffee owner.... thoughts anyone?
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Posted by little roastHer on 2007-04-11 14:54:12 Post Subject: from coffee house > roasting > coffee house?
hello,
I started a new coffee roasting business from my home. I love what I do, yet do miss the "people" contact - Recently I found out a local coffee house was opening and my name got out , I was contacted and offered a job... (I used to manage a coffee house they found out)
The birthing of my new roasting business came out of the closing of a nice coffee house after a few years in operation. I managed this coffee house and really miss it...I was offered the roaster and beans, etc..to start up at my home..no regrets.. however...the new owner has a supplier out of state and has told me that they are not "locked" in to any contract as far as bringing "other" beans in...kinda odd....wondering where I fit in here....makes more sense for me to be the "supplier", non? AFter all, I am LOCAL. This new coffee house would love to have their own label with my beans though - not a prob...a new area , should I expect them to pay more for this or not -
Question...Is this something I, a new roaster, should venture into...have a relationship with a coffee shop by being employed.. ( a pay check would be nice...what should I get paid ? ) perhaps getting my label out there is not a bad motive either.....or should roasthers in the business of coffee roasting just keep to themselves - not strap themselves to anything else , unles s the shop is mine of course... I really can't wait to get my hands on the espresso machine..it's been soOOo long...
I'm busy but not that busy..sales are doing better since an article went into the local paper - and I do have so much flexibility.... Would the best arrangement be to have a "contract" agreement, instead of being an employee? ...maybe offering my services (and expertise in making espresso based drinks, etc..) what do any of you think.... not to boast, but I know many people from my previous employement and this could be helpful to this new coffee owner.... thoughts anyone?
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View entire thread: Iowa Coffee Shop For Sale
Posted by caffe biscotto on 2008-03-13 15:27:25 Post Subject: Iowa Coffee Shop For Sale
A MySpace friend emailed this to me, feel free to check them out.
BTW - It's not my ad, so if you want to reply, just call Marjie, her info is below:
We have sent the note below to a number of people, and wanted to include you in this "mailing." Feel free to call for more info, or to pass this along to anyone you think might be interested. Thanks and God bless.
Due to recent personal and professional events in our lives, Mike and I have decided to seek a buyer for Linden Street Coffee House in Lamoni, Iowa. Lamoni is located midway between Kansas City and Des Moines, right on I-35. It's a small university town where a coffee house thrives and serves as a gathering place.
As many of you know, Linden Street Coffee House was founded in July 2001, and we have owned it since February 2004. We have enjoyed every moment in the business, but have made the decision that it will be best for our family to either close the coffee house or sell it to someone who will love it and nurture it as we have.
You are receiving this letter because we believe you may be - or you may know - a potential buyer for the coffee house. The coffee house has become an important part of the community, both for Lamoni residents and Graceland University students. It is an integral part of the total "Graceland Experience" that we all know so well, and it is a gathering place for community members.
We have not come to this decision lightly or quickly. Many months of soul-searching and discussion have culminated in the realization that we are no longer in a position to put our time, money, and energy into the business. There are many reasons behind the decision. We would be happy to share them if and when you are interested in talking further about this opportunity.
If you do not believe you are in a position to consider this business opportunity but you know of someone who might be, you are welcome to share this letter. We want every possible buyer to be aware of this opportunity. We want Linden Street Coffee House in the best hands.
If you would like further information or have questions about this opportunity, I would be available and interested in meeting with you. Thank you for your time. Please feel free to reply via email or to call me on my cell phone, 641-745-7707.
Marjie
Marjie Foster
Linden Street Coffee House
104 S. Linden Street
Lamoni, IA 50140
www.lindenstreetcoffeehouse.com
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Posted by caffe biscotto on 2008-03-13 15:27:25 Post Subject: Iowa Coffee Shop For Sale
A MySpace friend emailed this to me, feel free to check them out.
BTW - It's not my ad, so if you want to reply, just call Marjie, her info is below:
We have sent the note below to a number of people, and wanted to include you in this "mailing." Feel free to call for more info, or to pass this along to anyone you think might be interested. Thanks and God bless.
Due to recent personal and professional events in our lives, Mike and I have decided to seek a buyer for Linden Street Coffee House in Lamoni, Iowa. Lamoni is located midway between Kansas City and Des Moines, right on I-35. It's a small university town where a coffee house thrives and serves as a gathering place.
As many of you know, Linden Street Coffee House was founded in July 2001, and we have owned it since February 2004. We have enjoyed every moment in the business, but have made the decision that it will be best for our family to either close the coffee house or sell it to someone who will love it and nurture it as we have.
You are receiving this letter because we believe you may be - or you may know - a potential buyer for the coffee house. The coffee house has become an important part of the community, both for Lamoni residents and Graceland University students. It is an integral part of the total "Graceland Experience" that we all know so well, and it is a gathering place for community members.
We have not come to this decision lightly or quickly. Many months of soul-searching and discussion have culminated in the realization that we are no longer in a position to put our time, money, and energy into the business. There are many reasons behind the decision. We would be happy to share them if and when you are interested in talking further about this opportunity.
If you do not believe you are in a position to consider this business opportunity but you know of someone who might be, you are welcome to share this letter. We want every possible buyer to be aware of this opportunity. We want Linden Street Coffee House in the best hands.
If you would like further information or have questions about this opportunity, I would be available and interested in meeting with you. Thank you for your time. Please feel free to reply via email or to call me on my cell phone, 641-745-7707.
Marjie
Marjie Foster
Linden Street Coffee House
104 S. Linden Street
Lamoni, IA 50140
www.lindenstreetcoffeehouse.com
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View entire thread: New seaonal Coffee/Ice Cream Shop Owner asking advice.
Posted by Jackson on 2007-03-10 00:24:58 Post Subject:
Be careful in your planning stages, "bright lit, stainless steel clad" ice cream parlors with "easy to clean" chairs and tables may not attract coffee drinkers. If your ice cream parlor is dimly lit with coffee house style chairs, (comfy reading chairs) and coffee tables, you may have stained furniture from small children dripping ice cream everywhere. When planning two companies like this, you may want to consider making each store separate with a dividing wall down the center. That way if you host a birthday party for a ten year old in the ice cream parlor, you will not disrupt the coffee house. Same said for a Friday night poetry reading in the coffee house, it only takes one screaming child to scare away all the patrons.
The other problem you may encounter is duel branding. When Friendly's started closing locations across the country, they realized it was because of branding. Customers did not know if Friendly's was a restaurant or an ice cream parlor. They did not execute ice cream and restaurant very well and started closing locations everywhere.
Just some food for thought!
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Posted by Jackson on 2007-03-10 00:24:58 Post Subject:
Be careful in your planning stages, "bright lit, stainless steel clad" ice cream parlors with "easy to clean" chairs and tables may not attract coffee drinkers. If your ice cream parlor is dimly lit with coffee house style chairs, (comfy reading chairs) and coffee tables, you may have stained furniture from small children dripping ice cream everywhere. When planning two companies like this, you may want to consider making each store separate with a dividing wall down the center. That way if you host a birthday party for a ten year old in the ice cream parlor, you will not disrupt the coffee house. Same said for a Friday night poetry reading in the coffee house, it only takes one screaming child to scare away all the patrons.
The other problem you may encounter is duel branding. When Friendly's started closing locations across the country, they realized it was because of branding. Customers did not know if Friendly's was a restaurant or an ice cream parlor. They did not execute ice cream and restaurant very well and started closing locations everywhere.
Just some food for thought!
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View entire thread: American Barista & Coffee School - 3rd Birthday
Posted by BaristaTrainer on 2007-01-30 12:04:18 Post Subject: American Barista & Coffee School - 3rd Birthday
Hello CF Gang,
I am thrilled to announce that last month was our 3rd year in session at the American Barista & Coffee School. Alot has happened in 3 years and we are so excited about what this year has to bring. We have had hundreds of amazing students attend our school from all over the US, and the world, including Bermuda, Costa Rica, Japan, Bahrain, Jamaica, Malaysia, Mexico, Thailand, Korea, South Africa, Aruba, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Colombia, South Africa, the United Kingdom, the Virgin Islands, Hong Kong, Spain and El Salvador.
Last April we moved into our new facility as we had outgrown our initial training lab. We now have 2500 sq. ft. dedicated to coffee business education and full barista training and coffee house menu training. We have added wifi, P.O.S. training, 6 brewing methods for drip coffee, 10 commerical espresso machines, panini workshop, a full media center and more.
I look forward to every month as I can't explain how great it is to welcome a great group of entrepeneurs to Portland, the epicenter of the US coffee scene.
This last month was very special. It was the first month that we now have our very own Clover Brewer installed full time at the school. http://cloverequipment.com What a treat to share this technology with our students, (and to make coffee on each morning)
We also have added a roasterie tour to the agenda at Portland Roasting, in addition to our coffee house walking tour, and we continue to host cuppings with Joel, head roaster at Stumptown Coffee Roasters. This month he brought a special guest, John Bosco, from Rwanda. John is working here in Portland on sort of an exchange from his native country, Rwanda, where he has worked in coffee his whole life.
This weeks classes ended with a student mock Latte Art Competition where students worked in teams, as well as on their own to show off their newly aquired latte art skills. Jared and I are both finalists (Jared took 2nd place) in past Millrock Latte Art Competitions so it is extremely fun to give new baristas a small taste of what it's like to compete, even just for fun.
Pics from last week: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coffeescho ... 507346670/
This year as well will be our first year where we will soon be offering pro-sumer and consumer classes twice a month, along with a 3 day consumer class for those looking to get away and spend some time in "Coffee Country". http://coffeeschool.org/consumer
Anyway, thanks to our 60+ sponsors, adn a lot of hard work, we have been able to really create quite an experience here in PDX, and I look forward to seeing what the new year has in store.
Sincerely,
- Matt
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Posted by BaristaTrainer on 2007-01-30 12:04:18 Post Subject: American Barista & Coffee School - 3rd Birthday
Hello CF Gang,
I am thrilled to announce that last month was our 3rd year in session at the American Barista & Coffee School. Alot has happened in 3 years and we are so excited about what this year has to bring. We have had hundreds of amazing students attend our school from all over the US, and the world, including Bermuda, Costa Rica, Japan, Bahrain, Jamaica, Malaysia, Mexico, Thailand, Korea, South Africa, Aruba, Canada, Saudi Arabia, Colombia, South Africa, the United Kingdom, the Virgin Islands, Hong Kong, Spain and El Salvador.
Last April we moved into our new facility as we had outgrown our initial training lab. We now have 2500 sq. ft. dedicated to coffee business education and full barista training and coffee house menu training. We have added wifi, P.O.S. training, 6 brewing methods for drip coffee, 10 commerical espresso machines, panini workshop, a full media center and more.
I look forward to every month as I can't explain how great it is to welcome a great group of entrepeneurs to Portland, the epicenter of the US coffee scene.
This last month was very special. It was the first month that we now have our very own Clover Brewer installed full time at the school. http://cloverequipment.com What a treat to share this technology with our students, (and to make coffee on each morning)
We also have added a roasterie tour to the agenda at Portland Roasting, in addition to our coffee house walking tour, and we continue to host cuppings with Joel, head roaster at Stumptown Coffee Roasters. This month he brought a special guest, John Bosco, from Rwanda. John is working here in Portland on sort of an exchange from his native country, Rwanda, where he has worked in coffee his whole life.
This weeks classes ended with a student mock Latte Art Competition where students worked in teams, as well as on their own to show off their newly aquired latte art skills. Jared and I are both finalists (Jared took 2nd place) in past Millrock Latte Art Competitions so it is extremely fun to give new baristas a small taste of what it's like to compete, even just for fun.
Pics from last week: http://www.flickr.com/photos/coffeescho ... 507346670/
This year as well will be our first year where we will soon be offering pro-sumer and consumer classes twice a month, along with a 3 day consumer class for those looking to get away and spend some time in "Coffee Country". http://coffeeschool.org/consumer
Anyway, thanks to our 60+ sponsors, adn a lot of hard work, we have been able to really create quite an experience here in PDX, and I look forward to seeing what the new year has in store.
Sincerely,
- Matt
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View entire thread: Coffee for your soul.
Posted by Rowley on 2003-11-17 09:30:23 Post Subject: Coffee for your soul.
I read this article at canoe.ca and couldn't help but be moved by The London Coffee House's story.
For the past 2 decades The London Coffee House has been serving coffee to impoverished Londoners, giving them a taste of normal living.
Many of their customers suffer from mental and other health problems that keep them below the poverty line. The coffee shop would seem to me like their last connection to a civil world.
The Centers main and pretty much only source of income is through donations from the United Way, I encourage those who want a good story to continue on and read the article, it has great quotes and alot of insite into the directors Carol Brown and Vicky McNorgan.
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Posted by Rowley on 2003-11-17 09:30:23 Post Subject: Coffee for your soul.
I read this article at canoe.ca and couldn't help but be moved by The London Coffee House's story.
For the past 2 decades The London Coffee House has been serving coffee to impoverished Londoners, giving them a taste of normal living.
Many of their customers suffer from mental and other health problems that keep them below the poverty line. The coffee shop would seem to me like their last connection to a civil world.
The Centers main and pretty much only source of income is through donations from the United Way, I encourage those who want a good story to continue on and read the article, it has great quotes and alot of insite into the directors Carol Brown and Vicky McNorgan.
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View entire thread: Universities and Hospitals
Posted by CCafe on 2008-02-04 11:43:51 Post Subject:
Well your out of luck with Sodexho, they already own their own coffee house concept and its called Jazzman's.
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Posted by CCafe on 2008-02-04 11:43:51 Post Subject:
Well your out of luck with Sodexho, they already own their own coffee house concept and its called Jazzman's.
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View entire thread: Coffee and American Culture
Posted by tlowing on 2008-03-15 16:12:30 Post Subject:
Searh http://books.google.com for some good books that deal with the history of coffee and society and coffee in America. Boston had the "Green Dragon" and "Exchange Coffee House".
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Posted by tlowing on 2008-03-15 16:12:30 Post Subject:
Searh http://books.google.com for some good books that deal with the history of coffee and society and coffee in America. Boston had the "Green Dragon" and "Exchange Coffee House".
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View entire thread: Cost of buying an existing shop?
Posted by Muddycup on 2006-02-01 16:25:06 Post Subject:
not sure what you are paying but generally it is much cheaper and better to build your own coffee house.
If you want to e-mail me the numbers, I would be gald to comment further.
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Posted by Muddycup on 2006-02-01 16:25:06 Post Subject:
not sure what you are paying but generally it is much cheaper and better to build your own coffee house.
If you want to e-mail me the numbers, I would be gald to comment further.
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View entire thread: Commercial equipment suggestions
Posted by coffee_addicted on 2008-07-16 08:40:46 Post Subject: Commercial equipment suggestions
I am working on my business plan and trying to find quality espresso and coffee machine to use in my coffee house. What equipment do you use in your shops?
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Posted by coffee_addicted on 2008-07-16 08:40:46 Post Subject: Commercial equipment suggestions
I am working on my business plan and trying to find quality espresso and coffee machine to use in my coffee house. What equipment do you use in your shops?
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View entire thread: Need Roaster in Southern California
Posted by cafesua on 2006-07-28 17:49:10 Post Subject: Need Roaster in Southern California
I am opening a coffee house in Orange County California and needs recommendation on local roasters. Please recommend one or email me if you are one.
Thanks.
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Posted by cafesua on 2006-07-28 17:49:10 Post Subject: Need Roaster in Southern California
I am opening a coffee house in Orange County California and needs recommendation on local roasters. Please recommend one or email me if you are one.
Thanks.
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View entire thread: Commercial Toddy Equipment
Posted by KennyMike on 2007-03-17 05:05:28 Post Subject: Commercial Toddy Equipment
Being in Texas, cold drinks will be the hot ticket for a number of days per year at my new coffee house. Would someone be so kind as to point me to commercial Toddy equipment online. Google didn't seem to get me past Amazonish hits...
Kenny
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Posted by KennyMike on 2007-03-17 05:05:28 Post Subject: Commercial Toddy Equipment
Being in Texas, cold drinks will be the hot ticket for a number of days per year at my new coffee house. Would someone be so kind as to point me to commercial Toddy equipment online. Google didn't seem to get me past Amazonish hits...
Kenny
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View entire thread: My question on frothing techniques
Posted by dsal on 2004-06-04 20:16:54 Post Subject: My question on frothing techniques
I have a steam (not pump) espresso maker, and have never been able to get good froth from the frothing steamer. I really like the froth that is available from commercial machines, but I do not want to invest that much money. Is there any way I can get coffee-house quality froth at home without spending a fortune? OK, maybe not as good as coffee-house quality, but how about a reasonable second place?
Thanks,
dsal
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Posted by dsal on 2004-06-04 20:16:54 Post Subject: My question on frothing techniques
I have a steam (not pump) espresso maker, and have never been able to get good froth from the frothing steamer. I really like the froth that is available from commercial machines, but I do not want to invest that much money. Is there any way I can get coffee-house quality froth at home without spending a fortune? OK, maybe not as good as coffee-house quality, but how about a reasonable second place?
Thanks,
dsal
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View entire thread: WiFi Hotspot
Posted by CCafe on 2008-08-07 01:34:03 Post Subject:
I had a guy stop by several years ago wanting to do the same thing. Instead of him modifying a Linksys WRT54GL with open source software he proposed a proxy server that injected advertisements via email and web page.
Granted he wanted several thousand for his setup and it was a tad out of our range but more importantly our customers expressed their concerns with this idea. Mostly they came in to the coffee house to relax, have a cup of Joe, and read what ever tripped their trigger. They did not want advertisements pushed on them. Some even felt it was an invasion of privacy.
5 or 6 years ago someone released a survey he did of his restaurants and cafe's with Wi-fi. He found the average customer who was using a laptop spent up to $7.00 dollars in the shop before they left. The little bit I surveyed found this to be pretty consistent for the coffee shop I work with.
So with that in mind we ditched the whole idea and have never brought it back up. We do however have kiosks that charge $1.00 for 10 minutes. They push in store advertisement both picture based and we have in the past provided video as well. We also pull and use web pages as advertisement. Its all shown as a screen saver and once they move the mouse it all disappears. This system here makes enough money to cover the cost of the equipment upgrades as well as the providing the Internet access.
I think your approach is a novel idea and defiantly has potential. But there are thousands of cafe's giving a way free wifi with no strings attached and the public around here expects that. I even have people asking me to setup a femtocell for all the major networks inside the shop. There complaining about signal quality and think we should do something for them in that aspect.
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Posted by CCafe on 2008-08-07 01:34:03 Post Subject:
I had a guy stop by several years ago wanting to do the same thing. Instead of him modifying a Linksys WRT54GL with open source software he proposed a proxy server that injected advertisements via email and web page.
Granted he wanted several thousand for his setup and it was a tad out of our range but more importantly our customers expressed their concerns with this idea. Mostly they came in to the coffee house to relax, have a cup of Joe, and read what ever tripped their trigger. They did not want advertisements pushed on them. Some even felt it was an invasion of privacy.
5 or 6 years ago someone released a survey he did of his restaurants and cafe's with Wi-fi. He found the average customer who was using a laptop spent up to $7.00 dollars in the shop before they left. The little bit I surveyed found this to be pretty consistent for the coffee shop I work with.
So with that in mind we ditched the whole idea and have never brought it back up. We do however have kiosks that charge $1.00 for 10 minutes. They push in store advertisement both picture based and we have in the past provided video as well. We also pull and use web pages as advertisement. Its all shown as a screen saver and once they move the mouse it all disappears. This system here makes enough money to cover the cost of the equipment upgrades as well as the providing the Internet access.
I think your approach is a novel idea and defiantly has potential. But there are thousands of cafe's giving a way free wifi with no strings attached and the public around here expects that. I even have people asking me to setup a femtocell for all the major networks inside the shop. There complaining about signal quality and think we should do something for them in that aspect.
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View entire thread: Iowa Coffee Shop For Sale
Posted by LindenSt on 2008-03-18 09:51:20 Post Subject: Lamoni, Iowa
I agree that, geographically speaking, Lamoni, Iowa, is in the middle of nowhere. Linden Street Coffee House, however, is considered one of the area's most "popular" businesses, due in large part to the fact that it's the only coffee house within 30 miles. It is also a gathering place for community groups, local students, university students, and interstate travelers.
Lamoni is a small university town located right on Interstate 35, and Linden Street enjoys a very eclectic - as well as county-wide and even regional - customer base. Its longevity - 7 years this summer - speaks for itself. Come see us!
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Posted by LindenSt on 2008-03-18 09:51:20 Post Subject: Lamoni, Iowa
I agree that, geographically speaking, Lamoni, Iowa, is in the middle of nowhere. Linden Street Coffee House, however, is considered one of the area's most "popular" businesses, due in large part to the fact that it's the only coffee house within 30 miles. It is also a gathering place for community groups, local students, university students, and interstate travelers.
Lamoni is a small university town located right on Interstate 35, and Linden Street enjoys a very eclectic - as well as county-wide and even regional - customer base. Its longevity - 7 years this summer - speaks for itself. Come see us!
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View entire thread: BMI music licensing for coffee houses and restaurants?
Posted by baristaforum on 2007-06-19 11:26:48 Post Subject: BMI music licensing for coffee houses and restaurants?
BMI, who represents copyright interests of many music artists, has contacted me and aggressively pursued payment for a license they say I''m required to have as a coffee house as well as renew each year. The price for this, for me, would be 2000 dollars a year, but could max out at 10,000 dollars per year depending on the size of your coffee house.
Is anyone else paying this? Does anyone other than me see this as a pathetic attempt by big business to extort money from the pockets of ''mom and pop'' sized companies who otherwise might not know how to fight the issue?
I have about 12 open mic nights per year, and I have a collection of 10 jazz / blues cd''s I play throughout the day, and they are saying I''m in violation of copyright law by allowing these kids to come in and strum a couple songs on their guitars by their favorite artists. They also say It''s my responsibility to play ''copyright police'' and ensure the content of the open mic participants is not represented by BMI. Of course, if I pay their 2000 dollar annual license fee, I''d be covered.. Fine, so what happens when RIAA and ASCAP come banging at my door for their fees?
The pockets of coffee houses and small restaurant owners are about to be legally pickpocketed by these big music corporations by distorting the copyright laws for their own purposes. Does anyone else agree that this is ridiculous?
Blue
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Posted by baristaforum on 2007-06-19 11:26:48 Post Subject: BMI music licensing for coffee houses and restaurants?
BMI, who represents copyright interests of many music artists, has contacted me and aggressively pursued payment for a license they say I''m required to have as a coffee house as well as renew each year. The price for this, for me, would be 2000 dollars a year, but could max out at 10,000 dollars per year depending on the size of your coffee house.
Is anyone else paying this? Does anyone other than me see this as a pathetic attempt by big business to extort money from the pockets of ''mom and pop'' sized companies who otherwise might not know how to fight the issue?
I have about 12 open mic nights per year, and I have a collection of 10 jazz / blues cd''s I play throughout the day, and they are saying I''m in violation of copyright law by allowing these kids to come in and strum a couple songs on their guitars by their favorite artists. They also say It''s my responsibility to play ''copyright police'' and ensure the content of the open mic participants is not represented by BMI. Of course, if I pay their 2000 dollar annual license fee, I''d be covered.. Fine, so what happens when RIAA and ASCAP come banging at my door for their fees?
The pockets of coffee houses and small restaurant owners are about to be legally pickpocketed by these big music corporations by distorting the copyright laws for their own purposes. Does anyone else agree that this is ridiculous?
Blue
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View entire thread: Coffee Cart
Posted by JavaDreams on 2008-03-04 20:28:03 Post Subject: Coffee Cart
Hello Everyone! I am new comer to the world of coffee. My dream is to open up a coffee house, but need some revenue. I''m thinking it would be a good idea to set up a coffee cart to do so. Does anyone know anything about leasing/ renting a coffee cart? And if so, where I can go?
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Posted by JavaDreams on 2008-03-04 20:28:03 Post Subject: Coffee Cart
Hello Everyone! I am new comer to the world of coffee. My dream is to open up a coffee house, but need some revenue. I''m thinking it would be a good idea to set up a coffee cart to do so. Does anyone know anything about leasing/ renting a coffee cart? And if so, where I can go?
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Posted by Muddycup on 2006-02-27 19:06:58 Post Subject:
sounds like you need to start from the begining, local business agencies can give you free advice, and there are several people on this forum that will give some links to. "how to open a coffee house" books and CD Roms that some have found very useful.
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Posted by Muddycup on 2006-02-27 19:06:58 Post Subject:
sounds like you need to start from the begining, local business agencies can give you free advice, and there are several people on this forum that will give some links to. "how to open a coffee house" books and CD Roms that some have found very useful.
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Posted by Night Guy on 2006-02-27 01:53:54 Post Subject: Changing careers
I have been browsing the forums here for a bit because I I am interestede in opening a coffee house in a small town of 9,000 just north of Winnipeg Manitoba.
I decided on this since I love coffee and to get a good cup I hace to go into Winnipeg. All we have out here is a Tim Horton's They say it is a coffee shop I call it a doughnut shop This is the only game in town.
I am looking for advice on how to go about this and were to get started. I have no business experiance but a strong will to succeed. I guess I could start at the small business assosiation for some advice But any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted by Night Guy on 2006-02-27 01:53:54 Post Subject: Changing careers
I have been browsing the forums here for a bit because I I am interestede in opening a coffee house in a small town of 9,000 just north of Winnipeg Manitoba.
I decided on this since I love coffee and to get a good cup I hace to go into Winnipeg. All we have out here is a Tim Horton's They say it is a coffee shop I call it a doughnut shop This is the only game in town.
I am looking for advice on how to go about this and were to get started. I have no business experiance but a strong will to succeed. I guess I could start at the small business assosiation for some advice But any help would be greatly appreciated.
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View entire thread: Point of Sale Software/Hardware
Posted by Jackson on 2006-10-03 11:11:38 Post Subject:
It depends on what kind of business you are running. If you are opening a coffee house with pastries and drinks, I recommend a cheap cash register. If you are also selling the basic S's, (sandwich, soup and salad), I recommend an expensive cash register. If you are employing servers, then buy a POS system. Pos systems are very expensive!!! The last restaurant I worked for, bought an Aloha system for $24,000. Plus they paid over $700.00 a year for support. There are cheaper systems on the market, but till you by the server, POS stations, printers, cash drawers, cables and the software, you will spend thousands.
The advantages of a pos vs. a cash register are huge, as long as you utilize them. The biggest advantage is generating a theoretical food cost. If you program your POS with all the ingredients used with each item you sell, and update the costs of each ingredient every week, you can generate a theoretical food cost each week. After completing a full inventory, and generating an actual food cost, you can compare the two. Most mom and pop companies never take the time to utilize this feature. If you would like to have a feature like that, but do not want to pay $$$ for it, let me know, I wrote a very nice food cost program in Excel.
As far as quickbooks is concerned, if you do not wish to enter data daily in qb, just enter weekly totals.
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Posted by Jackson on 2006-10-03 11:11:38 Post Subject:
It depends on what kind of business you are running. If you are opening a coffee house with pastries and drinks, I recommend a cheap cash register. If you are also selling the basic S's, (sandwich, soup and salad), I recommend an expensive cash register. If you are employing servers, then buy a POS system. Pos systems are very expensive!!! The last restaurant I worked for, bought an Aloha system for $24,000. Plus they paid over $700.00 a year for support. There are cheaper systems on the market, but till you by the server, POS stations, printers, cash drawers, cables and the software, you will spend thousands.
The advantages of a pos vs. a cash register are huge, as long as you utilize them. The biggest advantage is generating a theoretical food cost. If you program your POS with all the ingredients used with each item you sell, and update the costs of each ingredient every week, you can generate a theoretical food cost each week. After completing a full inventory, and generating an actual food cost, you can compare the two. Most mom and pop companies never take the time to utilize this feature. If you would like to have a feature like that, but do not want to pay $$$ for it, let me know, I wrote a very nice food cost program in Excel.
As far as quickbooks is concerned, if you do not wish to enter data daily in qb, just enter weekly totals.
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View entire thread: .............Coffee Shop / Smothie For Sale................
Posted by MrBeans on 2007-12-15 15:01:49 Post Subject: .............Coffee Shop / Smothie For Sale................
Location: Keller, Texas
Motivated to sell fast, and willing to entertain all reasonable offers Asking $95,000.00 (Build out cost was $325,000.00)
The owner has dropped the price to sell as Furniture and Fixture Plus the Good Will for 24 months.
Independent ownership, no franchise requirements. Established coffee house in a high traffic and high growth area offering, exquisite Espresso, Coffee, Teas, Fruit Smoothies, & Frappes with pastries, sandwiches and wraps. Offering Free Wireless Internet.
Facilities: Leased spacious end-cap 1,550 square feet plus patio, plenty of parking space. Equipped with Swiss Made Super Automatic Espresso machine, state of the art fully computerized blender, Bose surround sound, wired for Satellite and mounted TV (ready for up to 50 inch LCD). Computerized POS system with Gift Cards. State of the art water filtration system. Lease expires 2010, with option to renew.
Competition: Exclusive rights on the lease for coffee & fruit smoothie retail operation. Near park, athletic field, more than one school, busy nail salon, large retail complex, exploding residential and commercial growth with a hotel and movie theater proposed across the street. This is a promising location for investment with extreme traffic, with total freedom on changing and/or adding to the menu. Continuous marketing will make this location a gold mine.
Growth/Expansion: Steady flow of customers throughout the day with many regulars. Current road traffic estimated at 37,000. Total daytime employment within a 5 mile radius is 34,000. Residential population within a 5 mile radius 178,000. and growing rapidly
Financing: Motivated to sell fast, and willing to entertain all reasonable offers
Support/Training: Current owner very much enjoys what he does and would be happy to provide training to new operator if desired.
Asking: 95,000.00
Reason Selling: To pursue other full time commitment.
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Posted by MrBeans on 2007-12-15 15:01:49 Post Subject: .............Coffee Shop / Smothie For Sale................
Location: Keller, Texas
Motivated to sell fast, and willing to entertain all reasonable offers Asking $95,000.00 (Build out cost was $325,000.00)
The owner has dropped the price to sell as Furniture and Fixture Plus the Good Will for 24 months.
Independent ownership, no franchise requirements. Established coffee house in a high traffic and high growth area offering, exquisite Espresso, Coffee, Teas, Fruit Smoothies, & Frappes with pastries, sandwiches and wraps. Offering Free Wireless Internet.
Facilities: Leased spacious end-cap 1,550 square feet plus patio, plenty of parking space. Equipped with Swiss Made Super Automatic Espresso machine, state of the art fully computerized blender, Bose surround sound, wired for Satellite and mounted TV (ready for up to 50 inch LCD). Computerized POS system with Gift Cards. State of the art water filtration system. Lease expires 2010, with option to renew.
Competition: Exclusive rights on the lease for coffee & fruit smoothie retail operation. Near park, athletic field, more than one school, busy nail salon, large retail complex, exploding residential and commercial growth with a hotel and movie theater proposed across the street. This is a promising location for investment with extreme traffic, with total freedom on changing and/or adding to the menu. Continuous marketing will make this location a gold mine.
Growth/Expansion: Steady flow of customers throughout the day with many regulars. Current road traffic estimated at 37,000. Total daytime employment within a 5 mile radius is 34,000. Residential population within a 5 mile radius 178,000. and growing rapidly
Financing: Motivated to sell fast, and willing to entertain all reasonable offers
Support/Training: Current owner very much enjoys what he does and would be happy to provide training to new operator if desired.
Asking: 95,000.00
Reason Selling: To pursue other full time commitment.
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Posted by Tweak on 2006-06-05 11:16:48 Post Subject: Home coffee maker
Hello! I'm a barista at a local coffee house. I love my job and I hope I'm good at it. But I'm totally at a loss as to what kind of home coffee maker to buy that makes a decent cup of coffee but doesn't cost an arm and a leg (barista....remember?
I'm living on small town tips here)
I had a Bodum "volcano" (as my kids called it) but it recently bit the dust.
Any ideas? Thanks so much. Love this site!
Lisa
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Posted by Tweak on 2006-06-05 11:16:48 Post Subject: Home coffee maker
Hello! I'm a barista at a local coffee house. I love my job and I hope I'm good at it. But I'm totally at a loss as to what kind of home coffee maker to buy that makes a decent cup of coffee but doesn't cost an arm and a leg (barista....remember?
I'm living on small town tips here)I had a Bodum "volcano" (as my kids called it) but it recently bit the dust.
Any ideas? Thanks so much. Love this site!
Lisa
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View entire thread: Industry Life Cycle
Posted by Philgood on 2008-05-09 11:17:13 Post Subject: Industry Life Cycle
Hello all,
I''ve been working on a business plan & am at the industry overview section. Just was hoping to get some input and(or) some links to resources regarding some things.
Where do you feel the industry is at in its lifecycle?
ie: emerging, growing, mature, decline
-I was going to put \"growing\" based on some of the information I''ve found. Based on some SCAA reports I''ve read it seems as though the market won''t be saturated for another 7 years or so. Also taking into consideration that almost 45% of new coffee shops opened since 1991 have been Starbucks, I think there is great growth potential for small independent roasters. Additionally, most of the coffee drinkers are in the 18-24 age group. Demographically, this market is poised to explode?
Anything I''m missing here? Any other inputs?
Why are college campus areas good or bad markets to consider?
-I was thinking that campuses are good because of the students who linger & I''ve heard they tend to buy every 2 hours? Also bad because of the lingering students I would assume. There is a large concentration of the targeted demographics on a college campus right? 18-24, educated, need caffeine?
Thoughts on this?
What are some opportunities & obstacles (if any) for a new coffee house/roaster in todays market?
-This is the one where I was hoping for some \"front-line\" input. What are some of the things you think are having a big impact, things I need to take advantage of or watch for? ie... The purchase of the Clover press company by Starbucks. I''ve heard the Clover press is not a big deal, and also it can be a big benefit.
Are there any other things of this nature I should research?
I''m grateful for any help here...
Phil
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Posted by Philgood on 2008-05-09 11:17:13 Post Subject: Industry Life Cycle
Hello all,
I''ve been working on a business plan & am at the industry overview section. Just was hoping to get some input and(or) some links to resources regarding some things.
Where do you feel the industry is at in its lifecycle?
ie: emerging, growing, mature, decline
-I was going to put \"growing\" based on some of the information I''ve found. Based on some SCAA reports I''ve read it seems as though the market won''t be saturated for another 7 years or so. Also taking into consideration that almost 45% of new coffee shops opened since 1991 have been Starbucks, I think there is great growth potential for small independent roasters. Additionally, most of the coffee drinkers are in the 18-24 age group. Demographically, this market is poised to explode?
Anything I''m missing here? Any other inputs?
Why are college campus areas good or bad markets to consider?
-I was thinking that campuses are good because of the students who linger & I''ve heard they tend to buy every 2 hours? Also bad because of the lingering students I would assume. There is a large concentration of the targeted demographics on a college campus right? 18-24, educated, need caffeine?
Thoughts on this?
What are some opportunities & obstacles (if any) for a new coffee house/roaster in todays market?
-This is the one where I was hoping for some \"front-line\" input. What are some of the things you think are having a big impact, things I need to take advantage of or watch for? ie... The purchase of the Clover press company by Starbucks. I''ve heard the Clover press is not a big deal, and also it can be a big benefit.
Are there any other things of this nature I should research?
I''m grateful for any help here...
Phil
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View entire thread: Coffee and espresso cups
Posted by conpanna on 2006-06-13 20:16:27 Post Subject: Coffee and espresso cups
Starting new coffee house in Texas - where can i find coffee cups, espresso cups and latte glasses? My supplier keeps showing me catalogs of regular restaurant drink ware. I've only had 3 hours sleep since in 48 hours - a little stress starting new coffee house.
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Posted by conpanna on 2006-06-13 20:16:27 Post Subject: Coffee and espresso cups
Starting new coffee house in Texas - where can i find coffee cups, espresso cups and latte glasses? My supplier keeps showing me catalogs of regular restaurant drink ware. I've only had 3 hours sleep since in 48 hours - a little stress starting new coffee house.
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Posted by mrgnomer on 2006-06-09 21:52:19 Post Subject: Re: Home coffee maker
Hello! I'm a barista at a local coffee house. I love my job and I hope I'm good at it. But I'm totally at a loss as to what kind of home coffee maker to buy that makes a decent cup of coffee but doesn't cost an arm and a leg (barista....remember? I'm living on small town tips here)
I had a Bodum "volcano" (as my kids called it) but it recently bit the dust.
Any ideas? Thanks so much. Love this site!
Lisa
How about a french press or a vacuum press or even one of those new Aerobie Aeropresses? I don't know if there's any automatic drip machines that can ensure full grind saturation and proper water temp and steep for an extraction that comes close to what you can do manually. Manual brewers are cheaper as well and the only electricity you'll need is for the kettle.
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Posted by mrgnomer on 2006-06-09 21:52:19 Post Subject: Re: Home coffee maker
Hello! I'm a barista at a local coffee house. I love my job and I hope I'm good at it. But I'm totally at a loss as to what kind of home coffee maker to buy that makes a decent cup of coffee but doesn't cost an arm and a leg (barista....remember?
I'm living on small town tips here)I had a Bodum "volcano" (as my kids called it) but it recently bit the dust.
Any ideas? Thanks so much. Love this site!
Lisa
How about a french press or a vacuum press or even one of those new Aerobie Aeropresses? I don't know if there's any automatic drip machines that can ensure full grind saturation and proper water temp and steep for an extraction that comes close to what you can do manually. Manual brewers are cheaper as well and the only electricity you'll need is for the kettle.
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View entire thread: How important is location?
Posted by celement on 2005-07-03 12:23:05 Post Subject:
Depends on the shop to. Starbucks recently acquired a building that I had looked at. It was a former fast food franchise with a drive through lane. I opted against it due to the 5k a month cost and the fact you had to use one of two driveways that were for other businesses to get to it...the ingress and egress (sp) were terrible - but alas for starbucks I'm sure they have no trouble making the draw...I would have had a problem becuase I don't enjoy that kind of brand awareness.
Drive through accentuates the need for a premium location in my opinion. A sit down coffee house just a little less. For a sit down coffee house it might be more important to have foot traffic, proper businesses and shops around, etc. But its still location....its critical.
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Posted by celement on 2005-07-03 12:23:05 Post Subject:
Depends on the shop to. Starbucks recently acquired a building that I had looked at. It was a former fast food franchise with a drive through lane. I opted against it due to the 5k a month cost and the fact you had to use one of two driveways that were for other businesses to get to it...the ingress and egress (sp) were terrible - but alas for starbucks I'm sure they have no trouble making the draw...I would have had a problem becuase I don't enjoy that kind of brand awareness.
Drive through accentuates the need for a premium location in my opinion. A sit down coffee house just a little less. For a sit down coffee house it might be more important to have foot traffic, proper businesses and shops around, etc. But its still location....its critical.
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View entire thread: coffee house FS
Posted by thisenator on 2005-05-23 18:06:02 Post Subject: coffee house FS
est. austin, tx coffee house FS.
grosses $300k/year. beer/wine permit.
great location. owner looking to move on with other projects.
owner financing avail. with cash down payment.
looking to move quick. asking $50k. serious inquiries only.
thanks.
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Posted by thisenator on 2005-05-23 18:06:02 Post Subject: coffee house FS
est. austin, tx coffee house FS.
grosses $300k/year. beer/wine permit.
great location. owner looking to move on with other projects.
owner financing avail. with cash down payment.
looking to move quick. asking $50k. serious inquiries only.
thanks.
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View entire thread: Independent Gives in to the Big Green Mermaid
Posted by rickdeet on 2007-04-01 11:10:29 Post Subject: Independent Gives in to the Big Green Mermaid
http://www.thebeanbar.com/images/april1-starbucks.jpg
For immediate release
Sunday, April 1, 2007
The Bean Bar Coffee House
3111 Hancock St.
San Diego, CA 92110
Local Independent Coffee House Gives in to the Big Green Mermaid-- Will Start Serving Starbucks Coffee Immediately.
Pt. Loma -- The locally owned Bean Bar Coffee House & Drive-Thru announced late Saturday night that it will take a major depart from it’s slogan of “Fair Trade. Organic. Independent.” and start serving Starbucks Coffee immediately, according to owner Rick Dieterle. “We’ve been fiercely independent and proud of it”, says Dieterle, “but being independent just doesn’t pay the bills.”
The three year old coffee house has gained a modest following among locals and commuters in the North Bay/Sports Arena area, just not enough to make a go of a location that Dieterle thought would be a sure winner.
“We’ve got 65,000 cars driving by us each day and we get people in and out of our drive-thru lane in five minutes or less during the busy morning rush, but people just seem to prefer the burnt, overly roasted taste of Starbucks Coffee. I give up!” exclaimed Dieterle.
The Bean Bar will keep its signature crepes and freshly baked pastries, including their scrumptious Giant Cinnamon Rolls, but their Fair Trade, Organic Coffee will be replaced with good old brew from Starbucks.
“I hope Starbucks lovers will give us a try now that we’ve made this decision. They’ll get all the overly roasted goodness they’ve come to expect from Starbucks, but much more quickly.” Dieterle concludes.
The Bean Bar is open from 5:30AM-7PM Monday – Friday, 6AM-7PM on Saturday and 6AM-1PM on Sunday.
http://www.thebeanbar.com/images/april1-starbucks2.jpg
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Posted by rickdeet on 2007-04-01 11:10:29 Post Subject: Independent Gives in to the Big Green Mermaid
http://www.thebeanbar.com/images/april1-starbucks.jpg
For immediate release
Sunday, April 1, 2007
The Bean Bar Coffee House
3111 Hancock St.
San Diego, CA 92110
Local Independent Coffee House Gives in to the Big Green Mermaid-- Will Start Serving Starbucks Coffee Immediately.
Pt. Loma -- The locally owned Bean Bar Coffee House & Drive-Thru announced late Saturday night that it will take a major depart from it’s slogan of “Fair Trade. Organic. Independent.” and start serving Starbucks Coffee immediately, according to owner Rick Dieterle. “We’ve been fiercely independent and proud of it”, says Dieterle, “but being independent just doesn’t pay the bills.”
The three year old coffee house has gained a modest following among locals and commuters in the North Bay/Sports Arena area, just not enough to make a go of a location that Dieterle thought would be a sure winner.
“We’ve got 65,000 cars driving by us each day and we get people in and out of our drive-thru lane in five minutes or less during the busy morning rush, but people just seem to prefer the burnt, overly roasted taste of Starbucks Coffee. I give up!” exclaimed Dieterle.
The Bean Bar will keep its signature crepes and freshly baked pastries, including their scrumptious Giant Cinnamon Rolls, but their Fair Trade, Organic Coffee will be replaced with good old brew from Starbucks.
“I hope Starbucks lovers will give us a try now that we’ve made this decision. They’ll get all the overly roasted goodness they’ve come to expect from Starbucks, but much more quickly.” Dieterle concludes.
The Bean Bar is open from 5:30AM-7PM Monday – Friday, 6AM-7PM on Saturday and 6AM-1PM on Sunday.
http://www.thebeanbar.com/images/april1-starbucks2.jpg
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View entire thread: Coffee Chains...
Posted by aguynamedrobert on 2007-05-08 17:43:25 Post Subject: Coffee Chains...
Hello,
Well I am in need of an experts opinion. What would you say is the highest quality \"Chain\" Coffee House? Starbucks, Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, Peets, etc? Also, why is that particular one the highest quality?
Thank you for your help in advance...
Robert
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Posted by aguynamedrobert on 2007-05-08 17:43:25 Post Subject: Coffee Chains...
Hello,
Well I am in need of an experts opinion. What would you say is the highest quality \"Chain\" Coffee House? Starbucks, Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, Peets, etc? Also, why is that particular one the highest quality?
Thank you for your help in advance...
Robert
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View entire thread: OPINION OPINIONS!!! Theme and concept testing here...
Posted by fatboyflyer on 2006-06-05 16:22:14 Post Subject:
Juliann-
Since no one else has chimed in, I’ll put in my .02 cents worth. Go for it, but if it doesn’t work, drop it like its hot and try something else. Don’t get discouraged, just adapt to your market. I’m manager of a small coffee house that has tried dozens of things that didn’t work, and four of five that did. Be willing to experiment, but don’t get so emotionally involved that you can’t let go of and idea when it fails. My best idea that didn’t work-daily special flavored latte. The dumbest idea that works great: a dancing iced mocha. Actually it is a costume that is supposed to look like a milkshake, but I put a wrap around it that says “iced mocha.â€
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Posted by fatboyflyer on 2006-06-05 16:22:14 Post Subject:
Juliann-
Since no one else has chimed in, I’ll put in my .02 cents worth. Go for it, but if it doesn’t work, drop it like its hot and try something else. Don’t get discouraged, just adapt to your market. I’m manager of a small coffee house that has tried dozens of things that didn’t work, and four of five that did. Be willing to experiment, but don’t get so emotionally involved that you can’t let go of and idea when it fails. My best idea that didn’t work-daily special flavored latte. The dumbest idea that works great: a dancing iced mocha. Actually it is a costume that is supposed to look like a milkshake, but I put a wrap around it that says “iced mocha.â€
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View entire thread: Question about storage of coffee in coffee shops.
Posted by Jackson on 2006-09-15 09:25:58 Post Subject:
Whole bean coffee should stay fresh for at least 3 weeks. Just make sure that the store you buy from always has fresh product, and only buy what you will use within a week or two. As for how to store it, an air tight container works great. I keep my coffee in the tin tie coffee bags provided at the coffee house, and store it right beside my french press.
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Posted by Jackson on 2006-09-15 09:25:58 Post Subject:
Whole bean coffee should stay fresh for at least 3 weeks. Just make sure that the store you buy from always has fresh product, and only buy what you will use within a week or two. As for how to store it, an air tight container works great. I keep my coffee in the tin tie coffee bags provided at the coffee house, and store it right beside my french press.
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View entire thread: Coffee for your soul.
Posted by Rowley on 2003-11-17 09:31:16 Post Subject:
I found the address and tele information for those of you visiting or in the London area.
London Coffee House Program
538 Dundas Street
London On. N6B 1W6
Phone: 439-9000
Fax: 439-4446
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Posted by Rowley on 2003-11-17 09:31:16 Post Subject:
I found the address and tele information for those of you visiting or in the London area.
London Coffee House Program
538 Dundas Street
London On. N6B 1W6
Phone: 439-9000
Fax: 439-4446
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View entire thread: <rant on> Why, Why Why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by CCafe on 2005-09-27 08:47:09 Post Subject:
You are correct!
Sounds like a coffee house that's half @ssin it. Either they were shown how to do it or they weren't. Or who ever taught them in the first place didn't understand it either.
Yes you are supposed to have 2 bulk grinders one for flavored and one for regular coffee. Technically you should never brew flavored coffee in your regular coffee equipment because you do get contamination.
I tell my clients if they want to brew flavored coffee to brew it another machine or if they only have one coffee brewer then to use one side of their dual machine. Never brew regular coffee on that side of the machine.
Any good coffeehouse would never brew flavored coffee anyway. Flavored coffee can cause contamination on a very large scale. You never want to store any around your regular coffee. Unflavored coffee when exposed to the aroma will start to take in that flavor. Nothing like drinking Kenya AA Hazelnut!
As for the espresso............yum! If you think that you can save time by pregrinding a few days in advanced, please shut down you coffeehouse and go home! I to visited a shop that did that, except I was brave and tried it.
Now if it was served in a mug and offered to me like drip coffee I would have asked what blend it was. Along those lines it was actually really good. For espresso, it was dead. No creama, not even a ring around the edge, not a single drop! Made me want to cry. Plus it was rather frigid. The only good thing it did was make a neat spray pattern on the sidewalk right in front of the place!
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Posted by CCafe on 2005-09-27 08:47:09 Post Subject:
You are correct!
Sounds like a coffee house that's half @ssin it. Either they were shown how to do it or they weren't. Or who ever taught them in the first place didn't understand it either.
Yes you are supposed to have 2 bulk grinders one for flavored and one for regular coffee. Technically you should never brew flavored coffee in your regular coffee equipment because you do get contamination.
I tell my clients if they want to brew flavored coffee to brew it another machine or if they only have one coffee brewer then to use one side of their dual machine. Never brew regular coffee on that side of the machine.
Any good coffeehouse would never brew flavored coffee anyway. Flavored coffee can cause contamination on a very large scale. You never want to store any around your regular coffee. Unflavored coffee when exposed to the aroma will start to take in that flavor. Nothing like drinking Kenya AA Hazelnut!
As for the espresso............yum
! If you think that you can save time by pregrinding a few days in advanced, please shut down you coffeehouse and go home! I to visited a shop that did that, except I was brave and tried it. Now if it was served in a mug and offered to me like drip coffee I would have asked what blend it was. Along those lines it was actually really good. For espresso, it was dead. No creama, not even a ring around the edge, not a single drop! Made me want to cry. Plus it was rather frigid. The only good thing it did was make a neat spray pattern on the sidewalk right in front of the place!
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Posted by CoffeeTime on 2006-04-10 10:49:54 Post Subject: Terrible Latte
Okay so this Saturday I went to a coffee house with some friends and had a small decaf latte with a shot of french vanilla. First of all it took for ever to get my drink and second it tasted like nothing. I couldn't believe it. I was all excited to have a latte and got extremely disappointed
. It taseted mostly like steamed milk with a hint of french vanilla.
My question is how come this latte was so bad. Was it becuase there was not enough espresso, could it have been the water, could it have been becuase it was a decafe latte instead of a regular one. Did the girl making the drink just make it wrong. I have been trying to wrap my brain around it all weekend and have come up with nothing. Needless to say I will not be going back to that coffee house anytime soon.
In case any of you were wondering I do know what a good decafe latte tastes like. I have had many in the past from a different coffee house.
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Posted by CoffeeTime on 2006-04-10 10:49:54 Post Subject: Terrible Latte
Okay so this Saturday I went to a coffee house with some friends and had a small decaf latte with a shot of french vanilla. First of all it took for ever to get my drink and second it tasted like nothing. I couldn't believe it. I was all excited to have a latte and got extremely disappointed
. It taseted mostly like steamed milk with a hint of french vanilla. My question is how come this latte was so bad. Was it becuase there was not enough espresso, could it have been the water, could it have been becuase it was a decafe latte instead of a regular one. Did the girl making the drink just make it wrong. I have been trying to wrap my brain around it all weekend and have come up with nothing. Needless to say I will not be going back to that coffee house anytime soon.
In case any of you were wondering I do know what a good decafe latte tastes like. I have had many in the past from a different coffee house.
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View entire thread: New Shop Question
Posted by winderbean on 2005-06-09 20:21:28 Post Subject: New Shop Question
Hi all. I am new to this forum and I need your help.
My wife and I are looking to open a new coffee house in our neighborhood but we aren't sure if we have the right location or not. Here's the "skinny":
We live near a fairly affluent part of Orlando, FL. The road we are looking to place the coffee house has nothing on it for 4 miles in each direction (when I saying nothing I mean no other businesses or strip malls, it's all residential and it is growing like crazy, the pop in a 3 mile radius is 6,000 people and is expected to jump to 9,000 in the next 2 years. The 5 mile radius pop is 39,000).
The county has just approved a strip mall for the road. It will have a dry cleaner, chinese rest, wing bar and grill, dentist, pool supply store, nail salon and if doable, my coffee shop.
The average number of cars per hour between 7 - 8AM is approx 700. and road is always "buzzing". The are more cars going South than north and I would be on the North side (450->South ... 250->North) however there is easy access to our parking lot from either side of the road. OUr shop faces the road also.
My rent would be 3,900/month for 1400sqft which includes the Common area
I want to sell espresso, coffee, danish, muffins, bagels and specialty desserts. I spoke to neighbors and they all say "it would be great for the area" since the nearest starbucks or other coffee shop is 15 minutes away (their is a conveniece store 5 miles away that sells watered down coffee though.)
I am concerned that 1) it's not in a high foot traffic area and 2) I am not sure how many vehicles to expect each day. The lease calls for 5 years commitment and that makes me a little nervous.....especailly if the traffic doesn't come.
I really think I can draw the Mom's and the young adults in the area by offering wifi internet access (hotspot) and by having weekend entertainment but I am new to this and maybe a little Naive? If we are the only spot in town won't that help?
Can anyone provide there experienced 2 cents...help is appreciated.
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Posted by winderbean on 2005-06-09 20:21:28 Post Subject: New Shop Question
Hi all. I am new to this forum and I need your help.
My wife and I are looking to open a new coffee house in our neighborhood but we aren't sure if we have the right location or not. Here's the "skinny":
We live near a fairly affluent part of Orlando, FL. The road we are looking to place the coffee house has nothing on it for 4 miles in each direction (when I saying nothing I mean no other businesses or strip malls, it's all residential and it is growing like crazy, the pop in a 3 mile radius is 6,000 people and is expected to jump to 9,000 in the next 2 years. The 5 mile radius pop is 39,000).
The county has just approved a strip mall for the road. It will have a dry cleaner, chinese rest, wing bar and grill, dentist, pool supply store, nail salon and if doable, my coffee shop.
The average number of cars per hour between 7 - 8AM is approx 700. and road is always "buzzing". The are more cars going South than north and I would be on the North side (450->South ... 250->North) however there is easy access to our parking lot from either side of the road. OUr shop faces the road also.
My rent would be 3,900/month for 1400sqft which includes the Common area
I want to sell espresso, coffee, danish, muffins, bagels and specialty desserts. I spoke to neighbors and they all say "it would be great for the area" since the nearest starbucks or other coffee shop is 15 minutes away (their is a conveniece store 5 miles away that sells watered down coffee though.)
I am concerned that 1) it's not in a high foot traffic area and 2) I am not sure how many vehicles to expect each day. The lease calls for 5 years commitment and that makes me a little nervous.....especailly if the traffic doesn't come.
I really think I can draw the Mom's and the young adults in the area by offering wifi internet access (hotspot) and by having weekend entertainment but I am new to this and maybe a little Naive? If we are the only spot in town won't that help?
Can anyone provide there experienced 2 cents...help is appreciated.
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View entire thread: Dream
Posted by CoffeeTime on 2006-04-13 10:16:04 Post Subject: Dream
Okay for the last two nights I have been having dreams about the coffee house that I want to open. The weird thing is it isn't even my coffee house, it's the coffee house that I went to when I was in college. I wonder if it is because of all the research I have been doing lately. I even woke up this morning thinking I had to go to my coffee house. Then reality hit me and I realized I had to go to my boring job. oh well one day I'll be getting up and going to my very own coffee house.
I was wondering if any of you ladies and gentelmen have or had this experience when starting your own coffee house.
Theresa
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Posted by CoffeeTime on 2006-04-13 10:16:04 Post Subject: Dream
Okay for the last two nights I have been having dreams about the coffee house that I want to open. The weird thing is it isn't even my coffee house, it's the coffee house that I went to when I was in college. I wonder if it is because of all the research I have been doing lately. I even woke up this morning thinking I had to go to my coffee house. Then reality hit me and I realized I had to go to my boring job. oh well one day I'll be getting up and going to my very own coffee house.
I was wondering if any of you ladies and gentelmen have or had this experience when starting your own coffee house.
Theresa
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View entire thread: Leasing a coffee shop?
Posted by NatchraLeigh on 2005-10-10 09:19:10 Post Subject: Leasing a coffee shop?
Hello there,
I have dreamed of owning my own coffee shop for years now, it's absolutely what I want to do with my life. I know I can make it work and I know that I have an idea that has not been explored yet, and I'm positive it will be a huge success.
That said:
I just moved to a new area, it's beautiful and the town is a smaller community college town. I know someone that is going to lease out a shop that is directly across the street from the college. I don't know all of the details yet, but I do know that the lease includes all that is already in the shop (it's completely set up with new appliances, espresso machine, grinders, blenders, furniture... everything, even syrups).
I am going to see it this week and get all of the details. The lease is what I think, pretty spendy. But, the location and the building are awesome. It's a converted victorian home, different sitting rooms, fireplace... everything I want and imagine a cozy coffee house to look and feel like.
Thing is, I don't know enough about the business yet, but if I can manage to pack in a lot of training in the next couple of weeks I can pull it off. My husband is a chef and I have worked as a barista and other customer service jobs all my life, and we both have ended up managing in whatever job we've had. I really believe we can pull this off and make it work.
Other thing is, that I've learned that the last two people who managed this shop walked out mid-lease, not finishing the lease and the payments. This of course leads me to wonder what happened. I know that they offered free wi-fi, maybe their expenses were a little too extravagent...
So my questions start here (finally)
1. Do you think that this is a smart move?
2. How much is too much for a lease?
3. How do I find out what happened?
4. What kind of training do I have to have?
5. Where do I find the training?
6. Do you think that I'd be able to get it all up and running in the matter of maybe a month?
Any other input would be very helpful. Thank you so much.
So far, I'm planning on going to the Coffee Fest in Seattle and attending the free classes, possibly the Barista Workshops and Trainings.
Any advice? Please?
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Posted by NatchraLeigh on 2005-10-10 09:19:10 Post Subject: Leasing a coffee shop?
Hello there,
I have dreamed of owning my own coffee shop for years now, it's absolutely what I want to do with my life. I know I can make it work and I know that I have an idea that has not been explored yet, and I'm positive it will be a huge success.
That said:
I just moved to a new area, it's beautiful and the town is a smaller community college town. I know someone that is going to lease out a shop that is directly across the street from the college. I don't know all of the details yet, but I do know that the lease includes all that is already in the shop (it's completely set up with new appliances, espresso machine, grinders, blenders, furniture... everything, even syrups).
I am going to see it this week and get all of the details. The lease is what I think, pretty spendy. But, the location and the building are awesome. It's a converted victorian home, different sitting rooms, fireplace... everything I want and imagine a cozy coffee house to look and feel like.
Thing is, I don't know enough about the business yet, but if I can manage to pack in a lot of training in the next couple of weeks I can pull it off. My husband is a chef and I have worked as a barista and other customer service jobs all my life, and we both have ended up managing in whatever job we've had. I really believe we can pull this off and make it work.
Other thing is, that I've learned that the last two people who managed this shop walked out mid-lease, not finishing the lease and the payments. This of course leads me to wonder what happened. I know that they offered free wi-fi, maybe their expenses were a little too extravagent...
So my questions start here (finally)
1. Do you think that this is a smart move?
2. How much is too much for a lease?
3. How do I find out what happened?
4. What kind of training do I have to have?
5. Where do I find the training?
6. Do you think that I'd be able to get it all up and running in the matter of maybe a month?
Any other input would be very helpful. Thank you so much.
So far, I'm planning on going to the Coffee Fest in Seattle and attending the free classes, possibly the Barista Workshops and Trainings.
Any advice? Please?
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View entire thread: Brewwise SH or TF
Posted by Sales Manager on 2008-03-16 16:57:45 Post Subject: TF for coffee house
I think CCafe has outlined everything important. I agree that the TF will be better for a coffee house. It's more stylish too.
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Posted by Sales Manager on 2008-03-16 16:57:45 Post Subject: TF for coffee house
I think CCafe has outlined everything important. I agree that the TF will be better for a coffee house. It's more stylish too.
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View entire thread: What are some good medium roasts?
Posted by bobzemuda on 2006-04-04 09:58:51 Post Subject:
I'm in St. Louis, so much of my coffee drinking is from one of our local roasters Kaldi's Coffee. I mostly only buy from them, because as a newish drinker of finer coffee, from week to week I'm trying different styles and am familiar with how they roast, and their brewing suggestions. I was buying from multiple local roasters initially, but I found, for instance, the way that Kaldi's roasted their Sumatra differed wildly from the Sumatra from another local shop Shaw Coffee House. Where I really enjoyed the Kaldi's, Shaw was just ok.
I make this point for two reasons...one...find a roaster and try all kinds of coffee. It's a lot of fun, and sometimes you're just blown away with how much flavor some coffees have...maybe even ones that you weren't sure you'd enjoy.
Lastly, I just had my first cup Guatemalan Antigua from Kaldi's this morning. It was incredible. I don't typically like these medium body roasts, but this one was so smooth and packed with flavor that I'm already looking forward to tomorrows brew.
Definitely invest in a burr grinder and start buying whole beans from a local roaster if you've got one, or someplace that will ship if not. kaldi's ships for sure. I know there's a really great roaster in Kansas City that also has a very wide selection and ships as well....plus...obviously there are a ton more that ship on here. I just signed up today though, so I haven't had much chance to look around as of yet.
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Posted by bobzemuda on 2006-04-04 09:58:51 Post Subject:
I'm in St. Louis, so much of my coffee drinking is from one of our local roasters Kaldi's Coffee. I mostly only buy from them, because as a newish drinker of finer coffee, from week to week I'm trying different styles and am familiar with how they roast, and their brewing suggestions. I was buying from multiple local roasters initially, but I found, for instance, the way that Kaldi's roasted their Sumatra differed wildly from the Sumatra from another local shop Shaw Coffee House. Where I really enjoyed the Kaldi's, Shaw was just ok.
I make this point for two reasons...one...find a roaster and try all kinds of coffee. It's a lot of fun, and sometimes you're just blown away with how much flavor some coffees have...maybe even ones that you weren't sure you'd enjoy.
Lastly, I just had my first cup Guatemalan Antigua from Kaldi's this morning. It was incredible. I don't typically like these medium body roasts, but this one was so smooth and packed with flavor that I'm already looking forward to tomorrows brew.
Definitely invest in a burr grinder and start buying whole beans from a local roaster if you've got one, or someplace that will ship if not. kaldi's ships for sure. I know there's a really great roaster in Kansas City that also has a very wide selection and ships as well....plus...obviously there are a ton more that ship on here. I just signed up today though, so I haven't had much chance to look around as of yet.
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View entire thread: New to the forums, saying hello!
Posted by bllondy on 2006-08-06 23:24:35 Post Subject: New to the Forum
Hi Floyd!
Just wanted to say hello. I'm new, too. I'm not in biz yet either - yet being the opperative word! I'm interested in your webmaster comment. Here's my master plan. I want to start out small. I want a little coffee cart, then a drive-thru and finally a real coffee house. My montra is no debt. I want to get the seed money by building a website selling coffee "stuff." Any insight or suggestions would be greatly apprecitated
Bllondy
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Posted by bllondy on 2006-08-06 23:24:35 Post Subject: New to the Forum
Hi Floyd!
Just wanted to say hello. I'm new, too. I'm not in biz yet either - yet being the opperative word! I'm interested in your webmaster comment. Here's my master plan. I want to start out small. I want a little coffee cart, then a drive-thru and finally a real coffee house. My montra is no debt. I want to get the seed money by building a website selling coffee "stuff." Any insight or suggestions would be greatly apprecitated
Bllondy
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View entire thread: Mochas
Posted by Kimry@cox.net on 2006-09-09 16:31:53 Post Subject: Mochas
Hello,
I am new to the forum and just wanted to get some opinion on Mochas.
I have been in the coffee kiosk biz for 6 years in the same location. Recently I sold my location and purchased a larger coffee house previously I used Ghirardelli powdered milk & white chocolate for my mochas and they were big sellers. My new location is using Ghirardelli syrups (which I find way too sweet with not as much chocolate flavor).
I would like some opinions on which you think are the better product powders or syrups
Thank You, Kimry
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Posted by Kimry@cox.net on 2006-09-09 16:31:53 Post Subject: Mochas
Hello,
I am new to the forum and just wanted to get some opinion on Mochas.
I have been in the coffee kiosk biz for 6 years in the same location. Recently I sold my location and purchased a larger coffee house previously I used Ghirardelli powdered milk & white chocolate for my mochas and they were big sellers. My new location is using Ghirardelli syrups (which I find way too sweet with not as much chocolate flavor).
I would like some opinions on which you think are the better product powders or syrups
Thank You, Kimry
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View entire thread: Cleaning coffee machine
Posted by pinheadmann on 2008-06-16 15:56:22 Post Subject: Cleaning coffee machine
Hi everyone:
I am a coffee house that uses the Bunn Softheat brew system. I have the 1 1/2 gallon dispensers that you put into the brewer and then move over to a heating stand for maintaining the heat.
I notice that they are getting quite 'stained' on the inside, and figure that I should be cleaning them occasionally. I know that Bunn has a cleaning powder of some sort that my restaurant supply store sells, but it is very expensive. Can you please tell me how you clean these storage units?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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Posted by pinheadmann on 2008-06-16 15:56:22 Post Subject: Cleaning coffee machine
Hi everyone:
I am a coffee house that uses the Bunn Softheat brew system. I have the 1 1/2 gallon dispensers that you put into the brewer and then move over to a heating stand for maintaining the heat.
I notice that they are getting quite 'stained' on the inside, and figure that I should be cleaning them occasionally. I know that Bunn has a cleaning powder of some sort that my restaurant supply store sells, but it is very expensive. Can you please tell me how you clean these storage units?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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View entire thread: American Coffee Culture
Posted by PinkRose on 2008-03-29 07:27:37 Post Subject:
Hello,
I just took the survey. It didn't take long to do.
I think a lot of today's coffee culture is based on today's economy, especially when a specialty drink at Starbucks (or any other coffee house) costs as much as a loaf of bread. People have to make choices.
I think there are many of people in this country who would love to be able to afford to pay $3.50 for a specialty coffee drink, but the best they can do is brew up some good old Maxwell House at home.
Although many people enjoy the coffee house atmosphere, they can't afford to pay the coffee house prices. I've seen many folks go into a coffee house and say that they wish they could afford to buy an espresso, latte, or something else, but they end up asking for a cup of plain old drip coffee instead. I've "been there and done that" before ... and I know what it feels like. You have to admit, when you're on a tight budget, a trip to McDonalds for your morning coffee is less intimidating, and less expensive.
Rose
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Posted by PinkRose on 2008-03-29 07:27:37 Post Subject:
Hello,
I just took the survey. It didn't take long to do.
I think a lot of today's coffee culture is based on today's economy, especially when a specialty drink at Starbucks (or any other coffee house) costs as much as a loaf of bread. People have to make choices.
I think there are many of people in this country who would love to be able to afford to pay $3.50 for a specialty coffee drink, but the best they can do is brew up some good old Maxwell House at home.
Although many people enjoy the coffee house atmosphere, they can't afford to pay the coffee house prices. I've seen many folks go into a coffee house and say that they wish they could afford to buy an espresso, latte, or something else, but they end up asking for a cup of plain old drip coffee instead. I've "been there and done that" before ... and I know what it feels like. You have to admit, when you're on a tight budget, a trip to McDonalds for your morning coffee is less intimidating, and less expensive.
Rose
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View entire thread: How many customers a day?
Posted by Java Rocks Tony on 2005-02-02 19:24:54 Post Subject: Re: How many customers a day?
My husband and I are currently doing research on and assembling a business plan for opening a coffee shop-type walk-in location. I say "coffee shop-type" because we want to include sodas, energy drinks and other caffinated beverages in addition to the standard coffee and tea offerings. We have started to flesh out our plan with numbers for rent, equipment, supplies, inventory, payroll and all the rest of the "outgoing" money flow. The one thing we are missing is good way to judge how to anticipate the "incoming" money. How many people can you expect on a good day? How much will each of them spend? We are looking at setting up in a downtown location with a fair amount of foot traffic, and we want a large space that encourages sitting around chatting, studying, etc. Does anyone have any insight into the number of people required to keep a business like this going?
Thanks,
Karen
i am not sure if i am going to answer this the way you may need, cause maybe I am misinterpreting your intent of ur post, but here it goes....! (sorry)
there is no adequate way I am aware of to guess how much each person will spend other than guess. that's pretty much what a pro-forma cash flow is: guesswork and estimates. u need to base them though on relevance, such as an average "daily" expected sales volume, which in turn would be based on traffic counts, u'd get from observing the proposed location. yes, observe at all times of day and evening, as thought that u might be open and u'll see what the "walk-in/walk-by" traffic would be like.
again, a "good day" as u ask, is going to be an estimate so make the good day estimate conservative for purposes of the buseness plan and pro-forma cash flow. make it as close to breaking even or just under (in the red) a tad to show u won't be profitable as a new business. then slowly increase your sales by about 2-3% monthly for the 1st 6 mos and more aggressively thereafter. show about 3 yrs projected cashflow if you are going for a biz loan. bankers love that.
i think u r on the right track but I would reccommend thinking of "people u need" as "cash flow need". don't worry about how many people u r going to get, just worry about money via sales. the easiest way to do what u want is very blatant and bare bones: u have to figure what all your expenses are, preferably monthly, and divide that by 30 (average) and that result by 7 (or how many days u plan to be opn weekly) and that is what u need to make at minimum to break even daily.
that was the easy part. now u need to get them inside and pay u to give them gourmet coffee. for the most part, the coffee and other offerings will sell itself; u just need to let them know ur there. sinage is probably just as important as location, and your name and signage needs to be coffee friendly (ie Java this, Coffee House that etc.) Make sure ur name reflects coffee, java, or coffee house. that is very important! get involved in city and club meetings, get ur name out with the shop's name and be friendly, and most of all patient.
i hope this helped some!
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Posted by Java Rocks Tony on 2005-02-02 19:24:54 Post Subject: Re: How many customers a day?
My husband and I are currently doing research on and assembling a business plan for opening a coffee shop-type walk-in location. I say "coffee shop-type" because we want to include sodas, energy drinks and other caffinated beverages in addition to the standard coffee and tea offerings. We have started to flesh out our plan with numbers for rent, equipment, supplies, inventory, payroll and all the rest of the "outgoing" money flow. The one thing we are missing is good way to judge how to anticipate the "incoming" money. How many people can you expect on a good day? How much will each of them spend? We are looking at setting up in a downtown location with a fair amount of foot traffic, and we want a large space that encourages sitting around chatting, studying, etc. Does anyone have any insight into the number of people required to keep a business like this going?
Thanks,
Karen
i am not sure if i am going to answer this the way you may need, cause maybe I am misinterpreting your intent of ur post, but here it goes....! (sorry)
there is no adequate way I am aware of to guess how much each person will spend other than guess. that's pretty much what a pro-forma cash flow is: guesswork and estimates. u need to base them though on relevance, such as an average "daily" expected sales volume, which in turn would be based on traffic counts, u'd get from observing the proposed location. yes, observe at all times of day and evening, as thought that u might be open and u'll see what the "walk-in/walk-by" traffic would be like.
again, a "good day" as u ask, is going to be an estimate so make the good day estimate conservative for purposes of the buseness plan and pro-forma cash flow. make it as close to breaking even or just under (in the red) a tad to show u won't be profitable as a new business. then slowly increase your sales by about 2-3% monthly for the 1st 6 mos and more aggressively thereafter. show about 3 yrs projected cashflow if you are going for a biz loan. bankers love that.
i think u r on the right track but I would reccommend thinking of "people u need" as "cash flow need". don't worry about how many people u r going to get, just worry about money via sales. the easiest way to do what u want is very blatant and bare bones: u have to figure what all your expenses are, preferably monthly, and divide that by 30 (average) and that result by 7 (or how many days u plan to be opn weekly) and that is what u need to make at minimum to break even daily.
that was the easy part. now u need to get them inside and pay u to give them gourmet coffee. for the most part, the coffee and other offerings will sell itself; u just need to let them know ur there. sinage is probably just as important as location, and your name and signage needs to be coffee friendly (ie Java this, Coffee House that etc.) Make sure ur name reflects coffee, java, or coffee house. that is very important! get involved in city and club meetings, get ur name out with the shop's name and be friendly, and most of all patient.
i hope this helped some!
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View entire thread: Funny Name
Posted by desert rose on 2006-05-12 15:58:50 Post Subject:
Woooooow. Actually I liked the slogan, you should start a new coffee house business with that slogan.
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Posted by desert rose on 2006-05-12 15:58:50 Post Subject:
Woooooow. Actually I liked the slogan, you should start a new coffee house business with that slogan.
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View entire thread: Help with store hours for fall and winter
Posted by jspiehs on 2005-09-19 13:37:21 Post Subject: Help with store hours for fall and winter
I am the manager of a small coffee house in a town of 25,000. We are located on the busy main drag and not far from a major Highway. The intersection we are located on has 15,000 cars a day thru it (and this is correct Traffic Counts rock). Anyway the first 3 months we have been open at 6 in the morning and close at 5 in the evening. Now with the colder nebraska weather comming more and more cumstomers are asking for us to stay open later. I just need some ideas on what times to be open till. The traffic really slows after 6 (everyone is home) We are not located in a shopping district but are right next door to a Quiznos that is open till 9. Any suggestiongs would be appericated. Thanks
Ps We do have a drive Thru
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Posted by jspiehs on 2005-09-19 13:37:21 Post Subject: Help with store hours for fall and winter
I am the manager of a small coffee house in a town of 25,000. We are located on the busy main drag and not far from a major Highway. The intersection we are located on has 15,000 cars a day thru it (and this is correct Traffic Counts rock). Anyway the first 3 months we have been open at 6 in the morning and close at 5 in the evening. Now with the colder nebraska weather comming more and more cumstomers are asking for us to stay open later. I just need some ideas on what times to be open till. The traffic really slows after 6 (everyone is home) We are not located in a shopping district but are right next door to a Quiznos that is open till 9. Any suggestiongs would be appericated. Thanks
Ps We do have a drive Thru
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View entire thread: Projections
Posted by DariusM on 2004-09-06 15:11:05 Post Subject: Projections
Hello All,
I'm in the process of opening a coffee shop and as I shore up the business plan I feel like I need to have a better idea of the possible sales for the shop. I know that each shop varies and that location makes a huge difference too, but just having a better understanding of what different shops do would be very helpful.
How many drinks does a coffee house sell a day?
What is the average price of their drink?
I've heard that starbucks and some of the other mass production shops can push up to 5k cups a day. Does that sound right?
Thanks in advance.
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Posted by DariusM on 2004-09-06 15:11:05 Post Subject: Projections
Hello All,
I'm in the process of opening a coffee shop and as I shore up the business plan I feel like I need to have a better idea of the possible sales for the shop. I know that each shop varies and that location makes a huge difference too, but just having a better understanding of what different shops do would be very helpful.
How many drinks does a coffee house sell a day?
What is the average price of their drink?
I've heard that starbucks and some of the other mass production shops can push up to 5k cups a day. Does that sound right?
Thanks in advance.
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View entire thread: Has anyone compiled a list of sites/books for coffee biz?
Posted by MrBuzz on 2005-09-01 12:11:22 Post Subject: Has anyone compiled a list of sites/books for coffee biz?
Hey everyone,
I would like to introduce myself to the forum as yet another person who dreams of opening his own coffee house.
This forum is great and I have spent quite a bit of time reading many of the informative posts here. Has anyone compiled a list of useful sites and books for the coffee biz newbie? It seems that simply doing internet searches or searches for books on Amazon brings up a lot of duplicitous or irrelevant information. I have already purchased a couple books and, while there is some useful info, it seems that these type of books have a lot of "filler" just to make the book seem more substantial than it really is.
A little info about myself: After working for a number of years in corporate IT I realized I wasn't happy in my field and working in the corporate world in general. I had waited tables for 8 years when I was younger (I am 37 now) and enjoyed many aspects of being in the food and beverage service industry. I've always thought of opening a coffee house and financially in the position to do this. It is now just a matter of getting the ball rolling.
Some of the big questions I'm dealing with right now are:
1. Whether or not to get a partner - I've a couple friends that could do this with me but I've heard that many businesses fail because the partners do not agree on how to run the biz.
2. Whether to use my personal finances or to get a business loan.
3. Finding location, deciding size, writing biz plan, etc.
Thanks in advance for any helpful info guys!
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Posted by MrBuzz on 2005-09-01 12:11:22 Post Subject: Has anyone compiled a list of sites/books for coffee biz?
Hey everyone,
I would like to introduce myself to the forum as yet another person who dreams of opening his own coffee house.
This forum is great and I have spent quite a bit of time reading many of the informative posts here. Has anyone compiled a list of useful sites and books for the coffee biz newbie? It seems that simply doing internet searches or searches for books on Amazon brings up a lot of duplicitous or irrelevant information. I have already purchased a couple books and, while there is some useful info, it seems that these type of books have a lot of "filler" just to make the book seem more substantial than it really is.
A little info about myself: After working for a number of years in corporate IT I realized I wasn't happy in my field and working in the corporate world in general. I had waited tables for 8 years when I was younger (I am 37 now) and enjoyed many aspects of being in the food and beverage service industry. I've always thought of opening a coffee house and financially in the position to do this. It is now just a matter of getting the ball rolling.
Some of the big questions I'm dealing with right now are:
1. Whether or not to get a partner - I've a couple friends that could do this with me but I've heard that many businesses fail because the partners do not agree on how to run the biz.
2. Whether to use my personal finances or to get a business loan.
3. Finding location, deciding size, writing biz plan, etc.
Thanks in advance for any helpful info guys!
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View entire thread: Objectives & Keys to Success
Posted by Comfy Place on 2007-04-24 11:09:18 Post Subject: business plan
Tiff,
The pat answer that you'll get on objectives is "to make money and stay in business". But really, you'll need to decide for yourself exactly what your personal objectives for the business are. Do you want to be more of an artist-centered place? Do you want to focus on environmental issues? Do you want to educate people about the nature of how coffee is grown and to try and help those people make a sustainable living for generations? Perhaps you just want to provide a hangout for people. Ultimately, YOU have to decide on what objectives you want for your place. As for ours, we want a place where people can relax and get away from all of the things that distract us, like TV, cell phones, internet, etc..
As for keys to succeeding, that will depend on your unique location. Are there already established chains or independants near you? How easy is it to get to your potential location? What do you need to offer that would bring people in? There are other, more general keys to success as well, such as ongoing education and training. Much of what you are asking about is individualized for each independant coffee house, so we won't be able to assist you perhaps as much as you were hoping.
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Posted by Comfy Place on 2007-04-24 11:09:18 Post Subject: business plan
Tiff,
The pat answer that you'll get on objectives is "to make money and stay in business". But really, you'll need to decide for yourself exactly what your personal objectives for the business are. Do you want to be more of an artist-centered place? Do you want to focus on environmental issues? Do you want to educate people about the nature of how coffee is grown and to try and help those people make a sustainable living for generations? Perhaps you just want to provide a hangout for people. Ultimately, YOU have to decide on what objectives you want for your place. As for ours, we want a place where people can relax and get away from all of the things that distract us, like TV, cell phones, internet, etc..
As for keys to succeeding, that will depend on your unique location. Are there already established chains or independants near you? How easy is it to get to your potential location? What do you need to offer that would bring people in? There are other, more general keys to success as well, such as ongoing education and training. Much of what you are asking about is individualized for each independant coffee house, so we won't be able to assist you perhaps as much as you were hoping.
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View entire thread: Barefoot COffee ROasters 2 year party, free drinks ALL day!
Posted by barefoot on 2005-09-13 23:38:40 Post Subject: Barefoot COffee ROasters 2 year party, free drinks ALL day!
To celebreate our awesome two year anniversary and to thank all our happy coffee fans for voting us Best Coffee House in two magazines, Best Coffee in Citysearch and others and just plain have a happy day we are having a major celebration.
We are giving away ALL espresso, coffee and tea drinks FREE of charge ALL DAY!!
You can drink as many drinks as you want at NO COST! nada, zip, zero!
In fact we are having a competition to see which of our hard core coffee freak customers can drink the most espresso drinks in a row. There will be prizes and awards and more.
the party is Friday the 23rd of September 2005 from 7 am till 11 pm. We will have some very cool Red Cross charity events going on, we are filming for our upcoming DVD training video and all kinds of fun stuff. so come on down and have a drink (or 10) on us.
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Posted by barefoot on 2005-09-13 23:38:40 Post Subject: Barefoot COffee ROasters 2 year party, free drinks ALL day!
To celebreate our awesome two year anniversary and to thank all our happy coffee fans for voting us Best Coffee House in two magazines, Best Coffee in Citysearch and others and just plain have a happy day we are having a major celebration.
We are giving away ALL espresso, coffee and tea drinks FREE of charge ALL DAY!!
You can drink as many drinks as you want at NO COST! nada, zip, zero!
In fact we are having a competition to see which of our hard core coffee freak customers can drink the most espresso drinks in a row. There will be prizes and awards and more.
the party is Friday the 23rd of September 2005 from 7 am till 11 pm. We will have some very cool Red Cross charity events going on, we are filming for our upcoming DVD training video and all kinds of fun stuff. so come on down and have a drink (or 10) on us.
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View entire thread: Rancilio Silvia sensitivity
Posted by CCafe on 2007-11-21 13:54:12 Post Subject:
Well I guess your SOL then because there is no point in buying a Silvia and not getting a grinder to complement it.
Its kind of like buying a home entertainment system with no speakers.
The problem is with the grind of the espresso. You have to make a lot of little adjustments to get it just right. Go to a coffee house and I guarantee you that you will see an espresso grinder next to a traditional machine. You won't see a bulk grinder and that is what they are grinding your espresso with. Bulk grinders differ vastly from espresso grinder.
Unless you have a really high end bulk grinder (Ditting, or a Mahlkonig) your never going to come close to the type of grind your going to get with even a Rocky.
So you might as well give it up or give in and buy a good espresso grinder.
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Posted by CCafe on 2007-11-21 13:54:12 Post Subject:
Well I guess your SOL then because there is no point in buying a Silvia and not getting a grinder to complement it.
Its kind of like buying a home entertainment system with no speakers.
The problem is with the grind of the espresso. You have to make a lot of little adjustments to get it just right. Go to a coffee house and I guarantee you that you will see an espresso grinder next to a traditional machine. You won't see a bulk grinder and that is what they are grinding your espresso with. Bulk grinders differ vastly from espresso grinder.
Unless you have a really high end bulk grinder (Ditting, or a Mahlkonig) your never going to come close to the type of grind your going to get with even a Rocky.
So you might as well give it up or give in and buy a good espresso grinder.
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View entire thread: Retail/Sales counters
Posted by Timms on 2005-01-20 09:35:53 Post Subject: Retail/Sales counters
Hi,
We are in the mid-planning stages of opening a specialty coffee house and are looking for retail/sales counters to purchase. If we build them new, there are many restrictions and building codes to follow. Does anyone have ideals or contacts to purchase "unique" sales counters? Any suggestions or help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Posted by Timms on 2005-01-20 09:35:53 Post Subject: Retail/Sales counters
Hi,
We are in the mid-planning stages of opening a specialty coffee house and are looking for retail/sales counters to purchase. If we build them new, there are many restrictions and building codes to follow. Does anyone have ideals or contacts to purchase "unique" sales counters? Any suggestions or help is greatly appreciated. Thanks
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View entire thread: Opinion - Accessibility vs Coolness
Posted by John P on 2007-09-04 19:10:40 Post Subject:
It depends on a few things:
1) Will you be doing an upscale coffee house, where the second floor ambiance is warranted?
2) How is placement of signage for either location?
3) Are you confident enough in your marketing savvy to drive business to the second floor.
Personally, I like the idea of the second floor. But I would opt for the first floor. Your location (city), your offerings, and the quality of those offerings need to match up. If I took the second floor it would be only under the condition that I have first right of refusal for any first floor tenant. If they aren't a match at all, I wouldn't want them bringing a whole bunch of the wrong customers. And that is key, the wrong crowd will kill you.
First floor... safer bet.
Second floor... you need to be on top of your game to pull it off, but it could be something special--- or a disaster of epic proportions.
Tough decision
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Posted by John P on 2007-09-04 19:10:40 Post Subject:
It depends on a few things:
1) Will you be doing an upscale coffee house, where the second floor ambiance is warranted?
2) How is placement of signage for either location?
3) Are you confident enough in your marketing savvy to drive business to the second floor.
Personally, I like the idea of the second floor. But I would opt for the first floor. Your location (city), your offerings, and the quality of those offerings need to match up. If I took the second floor it would be only under the condition that I have first right of refusal for any first floor tenant. If they aren't a match at all, I wouldn't want them bringing a whole bunch of the wrong customers. And that is key, the wrong crowd will kill you.
First floor... safer bet.
Second floor... you need to be on top of your game to pull it off, but it could be something special--- or a disaster of epic proportions.
Tough decision
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View entire thread: The best coffee house in the world
Posted by CCafe on 2005-08-06 16:58:24 Post Subject:
I go to the best coffee house in the world. Every morning I wake up, I go to my kitchen! It’s always made right and with lots of love!
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Posted by CCafe on 2005-08-06 16:58:24 Post Subject:
I go to the best coffee house in the world. Every morning I wake up, I go to my kitchen! It’s always made right and with lots of love!
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View entire thread: Recipes
Posted by Severus on 2005-11-07 16:53:35 Post Subject: Recipes
Hi, this is my first post here. I've been working in the coffee industry since I was 15. I'm now 21, and working in a small coffee house. I plan to open up a cafe' in the next five to ten years. I also have a passion for latte art.
I was wondering if anyone had any good recipes? I've invented a lot of my own through the years, but if anyone has any that they'd like to recommend, I'd appreciate it. I'm always open to trying new things.
I have one here that some of you might enjoy.
"Mocha Upside-Down Latte"
For a 12oz, dispense about two inches of whipped cream. Place lid on and pack in the whipped cream by hitting the bottom of the cup against counter/workspace until even.
Dispense two shots or three tablespoons of Mocha.
Pull a shot of espresso and pour it in, add your steamed milk of choice and watch the chocolate and whipped cream rise to the top!
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Posted by Severus on 2005-11-07 16:53:35 Post Subject: Recipes
Hi, this is my first post here. I've been working in the coffee industry since I was 15. I'm now 21, and working in a small coffee house. I plan to open up a cafe' in the next five to ten years. I also have a passion for latte art.
I was wondering if anyone had any good recipes? I've invented a lot of my own through the years, but if anyone has any that they'd like to recommend, I'd appreciate it. I'm always open to trying new things.
I have one here that some of you might enjoy.
"Mocha Upside-Down Latte"
For a 12oz, dispense about two inches of whipped cream. Place lid on and pack in the whipped cream by hitting the bottom of the cup against counter/workspace until even.
Dispense two shots or three tablespoons of Mocha.
Pull a shot of espresso and pour it in, add your steamed milk of choice and watch the chocolate and whipped cream rise to the top!
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View entire thread: Seeking advice in getting started
Posted by geburton on 2004-04-01 10:02:45 Post Subject: Seeking advice in getting started
A question for those of you who have started a coffee business.
First a bit of background. I am contemplating starting a coffee business. What I have in mind is a sit-down coffee-house serving espresso based drinks (and a typical variety of other drinks) and perhaps some pastries, bagels, etc - which I would prefer to obtain from a bakery if that can be worked out.
The neighborhood is mixed blue collar/white collar with a wide range of incomes. The location I have in mind is a retail business district with a fairly heavy traffic count (about 23,000 vehicles/day) and it is the main artery for commuters for some distance around. It would be near grocery stores and other retail establishments. There is also a small college (about 3000 students and staff) within 1-2 miles of the target location. I would like to have a drive through if a suitable location can be found (but the pickin’s are slim). There are some businesses, but this is largely a bedroom community.
So far the area has been totally ignored by Starbucks (there are a dozen or so Starbucks in town, but they all blanket the part of the city with the most new construction and a higher per capita income). My gut feel is that the acceptance of premium coffees is broad enough in the general population to be a hit in the area, and establishing a business before Starbucks eventually shows up would enable me to compete when they do.
I have absolutely no experience in retail operations and I believe there is no substitute for experience, so my question is: How did you get started? To answer this question I’ve tried talking to some of the coffee house owners in town but I sense a bit of unwillingness to share experiences. I suspect they regard me as a potential competitor. I probably would too in their shoes.
So can you help?
- Did you just dive in and learn by yourself? Or hire someone experienced?
- Did you have a mentor of any sort?
- Have you purchased any sort of consulting or training?
- What kind of “professional helpâ€
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Posted by geburton on 2004-04-01 10:02:45 Post Subject: Seeking advice in getting started
A question for those of you who have started a coffee business.
First a bit of background. I am contemplating starting a coffee business. What I have in mind is a sit-down coffee-house serving espresso based drinks (and a typical variety of other drinks) and perhaps some pastries, bagels, etc - which I would prefer to obtain from a bakery if that can be worked out.
The neighborhood is mixed blue collar/white collar with a wide range of incomes. The location I have in mind is a retail business district with a fairly heavy traffic count (about 23,000 vehicles/day) and it is the main artery for commuters for some distance around. It would be near grocery stores and other retail establishments. There is also a small college (about 3000 students and staff) within 1-2 miles of the target location. I would like to have a drive through if a suitable location can be found (but the pickin’s are slim). There are some businesses, but this is largely a bedroom community.
So far the area has been totally ignored by Starbucks (there are a dozen or so Starbucks in town, but they all blanket the part of the city with the most new construction and a higher per capita income). My gut feel is that the acceptance of premium coffees is broad enough in the general population to be a hit in the area, and establishing a business before Starbucks eventually shows up would enable me to compete when they do.
I have absolutely no experience in retail operations and I believe there is no substitute for experience, so my question is: How did you get started? To answer this question I’ve tried talking to some of the coffee house owners in town but I sense a bit of unwillingness to share experiences. I suspect they regard me as a potential competitor. I probably would too in their shoes.
So can you help?
- Did you just dive in and learn by yourself? Or hire someone experienced?
- Did you have a mentor of any sort?
- Have you purchased any sort of consulting or training?
- What kind of “professional helpâ€
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View entire thread: Wanting to purchase a coffee house
Posted by camoflauge on 2007-07-05 14:18:25 Post Subject:
If the town's population is 3500, I don't think you have the demographic to support a shop. You need to define fairly busy.
ok, our town is fairly small, but we are also 100 miles from anywhere big-such as starbucks, etc. we don't have a walmart, kmart, target, or any of those kind of stores. we are also a hunting/fishing haven. we have lots of tourist type people-all year round.
How long has the business been there? If it is less than a year, then maybe, just maybe, it is worth looking into. If it is over a year, personally I would not even consider it. Otherwise, $400-600 per day is a miserable failure of a 2400sq ft coffeeshop.
it has been open about 5 years i think. i "think" (and this is just my opinion) these people run about 4-5 other money making businesses that they don't have any creative ideas left for this one.
the whole reason for this "coffee house's existence" is the guy that opened it up is a multi-million $$$ cattle rancher/sells etc. he opened this as a place to "dine" his customers. he also has a recording studio in the building. he records for many "christian" type singers. well, he has purchased another building to completely dedicate to the recording. Since he has 4-5 other businesses, he has decided to get rid of 2 of them to concentrate on the other ones. His wife does the books on all the businesses and with everything it is too much work to do, plus make any management decisions on the coffee house, etc.
Also, is $325,000 business only or is the building included. If it is business only, they are out of their #@*$ing mind. # = f.
this price includes EVERYTHING except their limited gift shop merchandise-which doesn't bother me because i have quite a few vendors i can wholesale from, plus, i make candles and other craft things that i can fill the gift shop part up with. EVERYTHING being all the shelving, fridges, coffee equipment, basically any inventory with the coffee/restuarant business. It also comes with all the equipment and room dedicated to music recording-which could come in handy if a person was to offer musical entertainand i'm sure if i was really serious, if i wanted i could include the gift merchandise in the asking price. I believe they own the land the building is located on too-i'd have to double check for sure though.
and yes, the asking price is out of line-but 1 thing that makes it so expensive is that this guy took an old train depot and completely "restored" it-not just remodeled. it does not look like a train depot though as far as the inside is concerned. although, there is a possibility of taking the "train depot" theme further if desired.
Here is a very gross generalization. A $500,000 coffeeshop will gross you no more than $100,000 before tax, most likely $70,000. Using 2.5 times ebitda, a fair price is in the $180,000 range. This shop is doing $160,000, a third of $500,000 and they want $325,000? You should ask them to justify that crazy asking price.
I'm guessing that this means that i should probably not purchase this at the full asking price-unless the "restored" train depot somehow adds to the worth.
well, i guess i'll just sit on this for a while, doubt anyone else is going to want to pay the $325,000 asking price either. according to the owner, he has $361,000 just into the restoration. that's just crazy. why would you spend that kind of $$$? maybe if you were turning it into a museum or something.
Thanks for all the help. If anyone else has any advice please feel free to offer it.
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Posted by camoflauge on 2007-07-05 14:18:25 Post Subject:
If the town's population is 3500, I don't think you have the demographic to support a shop. You need to define fairly busy.
ok, our town is fairly small, but we are also 100 miles from anywhere big-such as starbucks, etc. we don't have a walmart, kmart, target, or any of those kind of stores. we are also a hunting/fishing haven. we have lots of tourist type people-all year round.
How long has the business been there? If it is less than a year, then maybe, just maybe, it is worth looking into. If it is over a year, personally I would not even consider it. Otherwise, $400-600 per day is a miserable failure of a 2400sq ft coffeeshop.
it has been open about 5 years i think. i "think" (and this is just my opinion) these people run about 4-5 other money making businesses that they don't have any creative ideas left for this one.
the whole reason for this "coffee house's existence" is the guy that opened it up is a multi-million $$$ cattle rancher/sells etc. he opened this as a place to "dine" his customers. he also has a recording studio in the building. he records for many "christian" type singers. well, he has purchased another building to completely dedicate to the recording. Since he has 4-5 other businesses, he has decided to get rid of 2 of them to concentrate on the other ones. His wife does the books on all the businesses and with everything it is too much work to do, plus make any management decisions on the coffee house, etc.
Also, is $325,000 business only or is the building included. If it is business only, they are out of their #@*$ing mind. # = f.
this price includes EVERYTHING except their limited gift shop merchandise-which doesn't bother me because i have quite a few vendors i can wholesale from, plus, i make candles and other craft things that i can fill the gift shop part up with. EVERYTHING being all the shelving, fridges, coffee equipment, basically any inventory with the coffee/restuarant business. It also comes with all the equipment and room dedicated to music recording-which could come in handy if a person was to offer musical entertainand i'm sure if i was really serious, if i wanted i could include the gift merchandise in the asking price. I believe they own the land the building is located on too-i'd have to double check for sure though.
and yes, the asking price is out of line-but 1 thing that makes it so expensive is that this guy took an old train depot and completely "restored" it-not just remodeled. it does not look like a train depot though as far as the inside is concerned. although, there is a possibility of taking the "train depot" theme further if desired.
Here is a very gross generalization. A $500,000 coffeeshop will gross you no more than $100,000 before tax, most likely $70,000. Using 2.5 times ebitda, a fair price is in the $180,000 range. This shop is doing $160,000, a third of $500,000 and they want $325,000? You should ask them to justify that crazy asking price.
I'm guessing that this means that i should probably not purchase this at the full asking price-unless the "restored" train depot somehow adds to the worth.
well, i guess i'll just sit on this for a while, doubt anyone else is going to want to pay the $325,000 asking price either. according to the owner, he has $361,000 just into the restoration. that's just crazy. why would you spend that kind of $$$? maybe if you were turning it into a museum or something.
Thanks for all the help. If anyone else has any advice please feel free to offer it.
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View entire thread: New Shop In Tampa has needs...
Posted by gazebocoffee on 2006-03-08 14:43:58 Post Subject:
Wow. What about those hours? Did I read them correctly? 7pm - noon. What a concept. I have been in the coffee business for what seems like a hundred years and am operating my 13th coffee house and applaud your stepping out of the box with this service delivery system. I hope your market is successful. The local media should love the uniqueness of your business and its hours. Just be careful in catering to one supply source for your business. The old adage, "putting all your eggs in one basket.."
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Posted by gazebocoffee on 2006-03-08 14:43:58 Post Subject:
Wow. What about those hours? Did I read them correctly? 7pm - noon. What a concept. I have been in the coffee business for what seems like a hundred years and am operating my 13th coffee house and applaud your stepping out of the box with this service delivery system. I hope your market is successful. The local media should love the uniqueness of your business and its hours. Just be careful in catering to one supply source for your business. The old adage, "putting all your eggs in one basket.."
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Posted by coffee_addicted on 2008-07-08 07:15:32 Post Subject: question for the group
first off thank all of you for the great information you put out there to help others.
I have been interested in opening a coffee house for many years, even before I worked for one, but have not made the plunge yet. Anytime I am driving around and see a buiding or land up for lease or sale my first thought is would it make a good site for a coffee house. I have my Business and Marketing plan done and have found two sites that I feel would be great locations. The first one is located on the main Boulevard in the city. The building is within walking distance of 2 university's, 1 college, 1 high school and a very large hospital. Within a mile radius there is 2 more colleges and across the street is a major tourist destination for certain times of the year( but we have other tourist events from October till June). This site is very large ( and would be designed as a true coffee house with sit down and live entertainment and coffee related retail and so forth. The second location that I am looking would be a drive through location. located on the morning side of a double lane divided road. This location would be located near the entrance to two major express ways and is one of the two roads out of the city. speed limit is 45 here and there is a new large plaza going in across the street.
My question is if it better to start off with a drive through to get your feet wet or make the plunge and start off with a coffee house?
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Posted by coffee_addicted on 2008-07-08 07:15:32 Post Subject: question for the group
first off thank all of you for the great information you put out there to help others.
I have been interested in opening a coffee house for many years, even before I worked for one, but have not made the plunge yet. Anytime I am driving around and see a buiding or land up for lease or sale my first thought is would it make a good site for a coffee house. I have my Business and Marketing plan done and have found two sites that I feel would be great locations. The first one is located on the main Boulevard in the city. The building is within walking distance of 2 university's, 1 college, 1 high school and a very large hospital. Within a mile radius there is 2 more colleges and across the street is a major tourist destination for certain times of the year( but we have other tourist events from October till June). This site is very large ( and would be designed as a true coffee house with sit down and live entertainment and coffee related retail and so forth. The second location that I am looking would be a drive through location. located on the morning side of a double lane divided road. This location would be located near the entrance to two major express ways and is one of the two roads out of the city. speed limit is 45 here and there is a new large plaza going in across the street.
My question is if it better to start off with a drive through to get your feet wet or make the plunge and start off with a coffee house?
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View entire thread: Seattle CF
Posted by 3ternal on 2007-11-09 11:06:28 Post Subject:
I'll be there 100%
Can't wait for it, I've got $20 discounts for 2 more ppl if anyone's interested.
BTW, I'd extremely appreciate getting to know/talk to some coffee house owners that will be coming. I'm in trying to open up a coffee house with my business partner, and the more advise/guidence I can get... the better! Please let me know if you'd be available, I'd really appreciate it
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Posted by 3ternal on 2007-11-09 11:06:28 Post Subject:
I'll be there 100%
Can't wait for it, I've got $20 discounts for 2 more ppl if anyone's interested.
BTW, I'd extremely appreciate getting to know/talk to some coffee house owners that will be coming. I'm in trying to open up a coffee house with my business partner, and the more advise/guidence I can get... the better! Please let me know if you'd be available, I'd really appreciate it
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View entire thread: small town - how small is too small?
Posted by beanvenus on 2005-03-25 12:10:37 Post Subject: small town - how small is too small?
How small a town is too small to support a coffee house?
The town I'm looking at has a population of about 7,000. It is a bedroom community outside Philadelphia with a lot of commuters. It is one of Pennsylvania's old steel towns. I'm beginning to see revitalization with redevelopers snatching up the old abandoned warehouse and manufacturing properties. I smell potential. Businesses are beginning to move into renovated spaces, there is a growing community college campus and I'm aware of a new large condominium project currently underway (an old manufacturing plant is under demolition making room for this project). There has been talk for several years of a commuter train stopping in this town. There used to be a commuter train, back in the old steel days so there are existing tracks with commercial trains but no commuters ... yet. The train, truly is an unknown factor at this point, with the Chamber of Commerce working vigorously to make it a reality.
There was a coffee house which opened and closed. The shop was dirty and the environment seemed to invite teenagers to sit around on old sofa's all day. I have a list of other reasons I can point to why I suspect it failed.
Is a population of 7,000 too small and am I just being too optimistic?
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Posted by beanvenus on 2005-03-25 12:10:37 Post Subject: small town - how small is too small?
How small a town is too small to support a coffee house?
The town I'm looking at has a population of about 7,000. It is a bedroom community outside Philadelphia with a lot of commuters. It is one of Pennsylvania's old steel towns. I'm beginning to see revitalization with redevelopers snatching up the old abandoned warehouse and manufacturing properties. I smell potential. Businesses are beginning to move into renovated spaces, there is a growing community college campus and I'm aware of a new large condominium project currently underway (an old manufacturing plant is under demolition making room for this project). There has been talk for several years of a commuter train stopping in this town. There used to be a commuter train, back in the old steel days so there are existing tracks with commercial trains but no commuters ... yet. The train, truly is an unknown factor at this point, with the Chamber of Commerce working vigorously to make it a reality.
There was a coffee house which opened and closed. The shop was dirty and the environment seemed to invite teenagers to sit around on old sofa's all day. I have a list of other reasons I can point to why I suspect it failed.
Is a population of 7,000 too small and am I just being too optimistic?
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View entire thread: New Shop In Tampa has needs...
Posted by Insomniacs_Coffee_House on 2006-03-06 20:23:51 Post Subject: New Shop In Tampa has needs...
Hello. This is my first post. I am the owner of a new shop that is being built out in New Port Richey Florida (Tampa Area)
I am opening a 1500 sq. foot coffee house/lounge that is open from 7pm to noon (i.e. the night crowd... the place is next to a very popular nightclub. i figure i will have some traffic that stumbles out of the bar and into a coffee lounge because the bar is closing at 2am and at 2:01 am their night is not quite over)
I am looking to purchase a complete set of needed equipment for this shop (build out will be complete in 3 weeks, doors opening about a month)
my email is meccariello@tampabay.rr.com
if you have any or all of the equipment that i need, i will be very interested in speaking with you.
i will also be very open to suggestions, options, research, do's and don'ts, suppliers, layouts, opinions and even snide remarks as long as its directly related to the business (ok, a few jokes can lighten my day too ) etc. etc.
Thank you in advance
D. Meccariello
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Posted by Insomniacs_Coffee_House on 2006-03-06 20:23:51 Post Subject: New Shop In Tampa has needs...
Hello. This is my first post. I am the owner of a new shop that is being built out in New Port Richey Florida (Tampa Area)
I am opening a 1500 sq. foot coffee house/lounge that is open from 7pm to noon (i.e. the night crowd... the place is next to a very popular nightclub. i figure i will have some traffic that stumbles out of the bar and into a coffee lounge because the bar is closing at 2am and at 2:01 am their night is not quite over)
I am looking to purchase a complete set of needed equipment for this shop (build out will be complete in 3 weeks, doors opening about a month)
my email is meccariello@tampabay.rr.com
if you have any or all of the equipment that i need, i will be very interested in speaking with you.
i will also be very open to suggestions, options, research, do's and don'ts, suppliers, layouts, opinions and even snide remarks as long as its directly related to the business (ok, a few jokes can lighten my day too ) etc. etc.
Thank you in advance
D. Meccariello
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View entire thread: How about Selby Soft POS
Posted by Rockcreekcoffee on 2006-04-20 16:35:23 Post Subject: Selby Soft
We have had Selby Soft in our coffee house for the last 1-1/2 years. I have great trust in their product and their customer service is fantastic!
We purchased our system 2 years ago at the SCAA show in Atlanta. It was a very last minute decision for us and by far it has been one of the best we have made as far as equipment into our shop.
If you purchase it, you will not be disappointed.
Rockcreekcoffee
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Posted by Rockcreekcoffee on 2006-04-20 16:35:23 Post Subject: Selby Soft
We have had Selby Soft in our coffee house for the last 1-1/2 years. I have great trust in their product and their customer service is fantastic!
We purchased our system 2 years ago at the SCAA show in Atlanta. It was a very last minute decision for us and by far it has been one of the best we have made as far as equipment into our shop.
If you purchase it, you will not be disappointed.
Rockcreekcoffee
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