View entire thread: Gourmet coffee
Posted by Rosy on 2007-07-20 02:17:33 Post Subject: Gourmet coffee
I love coffee very much i love to drink chocolate coffee it is very tasty any coffee lovers want to see more coffee products go and watch different coffee sites there we will get lot of information about coffee beans,coffee products.
cheers,
Rosy.
www.coffeebreakusa.com
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Posted by Rosy on 2007-07-20 02:17:33 Post Subject: Gourmet coffee
I love coffee very much i love to drink chocolate coffee it is very tasty any coffee lovers want to see more coffee products go and watch different coffee sites there we will get lot of information about coffee beans,coffee products.
cheers,
Rosy.
www.coffeebreakusa.com
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View entire thread: New Products
Posted by charlesl on 2008-08-20 12:05:21 Post Subject: New Products
I am looking for possible advisors on the development of new coffee products
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Posted by charlesl on 2008-08-20 12:05:21 Post Subject: New Products
I am looking for possible advisors on the development of new coffee products
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View entire thread: MyCupCoffee.com
Posted by MyCup on 2008-08-29 15:34:12 Post Subject: MyCupCoffee.com
Hello,
We offer a wide range of Green Mountain Coffee, K Cups and teas, all with free shipping.
We also offer a variety of brewing supplies, accessories and other office coffee products at competitive pricing. You can visit our website at http://www.mycupcoffe.com
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Posted by MyCup on 2008-08-29 15:34:12 Post Subject: MyCupCoffee.com
Hello,
We offer a wide range of Green Mountain Coffee, K Cups and teas, all with free shipping.
We also offer a variety of brewing supplies, accessories and other office coffee products at competitive pricing. You can visit our website at http://www.mycupcoffe.com
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View entire thread: In Search of -- Baristas in Georgetown, Texas -- Bar None Co
Posted by BarNoneCoffee on 2007-04-05 09:40:16 Post Subject: In Search of -- Baristas in Georgetown, Texas -- Bar None Co
Bar None Coffee Co. is currently hiring for our soon-to-open store in Georgetown, Texas. We will begin training on April 23, 2007. We are looking for people with a passion for coffee who will enjoy the experience of learning the art of making fine espresso, coffee and tea drinks. Join our winning team in delivering the finest specialty coffee products and service in all of Texas.
More details at http://www.barnonecoffee.com/jobs/
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Posted by BarNoneCoffee on 2007-04-05 09:40:16 Post Subject: In Search of -- Baristas in Georgetown, Texas -- Bar None Co
Bar None Coffee Co. is currently hiring for our soon-to-open store in Georgetown, Texas. We will begin training on April 23, 2007. We are looking for people with a passion for coffee who will enjoy the experience of learning the art of making fine espresso, coffee and tea drinks. Join our winning team in delivering the finest specialty coffee products and service in all of Texas.
More details at http://www.barnonecoffee.com/jobs/
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View entire thread: FUZION new Coffee House Dallas area
Posted by utraju07 on 2004-02-18 20:22:44 Post Subject: FUZION new Coffee House Dallas area
Hey all THere is a New Coffee House In the Dallas TX area particularly Richardson. Name FUZION. It has Coffee products smoothies and Bubble Tea. They have tried to bring live environment to the Suburb area. There is a stage for Live Entertainment with is used every friday for Poetry Slam and Saturday for Live Bands in the evening. THey have a large screen TV.
Fuzion lets you mix and match ur drinks. You could get hazelnut latte, peppermint latte white cherry mocha, bananna mocha etc. and they don't even charge extra for syrups. THe price is much better Than Starbucks.
Small which is 12 oz is like $2.45 medium 16 oz is aprox $2.95 and
large 20 oz is $3.25.
Comfortable Leather Couches. Local Environment in the suburb of Richardson. Located near University of Texas at Dallas
Free Wireless Internet and 2 computer that you can use for Free Cool thing they are open from 7am till 2am in the morning. Heck Ya.
Check it out the website is www.fuzionlounge.com. We welcome Feedback from everyone as the Owners are Young Entrepreneurs who are open to helpful feedback helping them to suceed
exact add
581 W. Campbell Rd. #129
Richardson, TX 75080
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Posted by utraju07 on 2004-02-18 20:22:44 Post Subject: FUZION new Coffee House Dallas area
Hey all THere is a New Coffee House In the Dallas TX area particularly Richardson. Name FUZION. It has Coffee products smoothies and Bubble Tea. They have tried to bring live environment to the Suburb area. There is a stage for Live Entertainment with is used every friday for Poetry Slam and Saturday for Live Bands in the evening. THey have a large screen TV.
Fuzion lets you mix and match ur drinks. You could get hazelnut latte, peppermint latte white cherry mocha, bananna mocha etc. and they don't even charge extra for syrups. THe price is much better Than Starbucks.
Small which is 12 oz is like $2.45 medium 16 oz is aprox $2.95 and
large 20 oz is $3.25.
Comfortable Leather Couches. Local Environment in the suburb of Richardson. Located near University of Texas at Dallas
Free Wireless Internet and 2 computer that you can use for Free Cool thing they are open from 7am till 2am in the morning. Heck Ya.
Check it out the website is www.fuzionlounge.com. We welcome Feedback from everyone as the Owners are Young Entrepreneurs who are open to helpful feedback helping them to suceed
exact add
581 W. Campbell Rd. #129
Richardson, TX 75080
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View entire thread: Don Veitia
Posted by donveitia on 2004-12-12 13:19:27 Post Subject: Don Veitia
Become an Area Owner, Area Agent and JV for Don Veitia
We, Z Group have an original brand called, “Don Veitiaâ€
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Posted by donveitia on 2004-12-12 13:19:27 Post Subject: Don Veitia
Become an Area Owner, Area Agent and JV for Don Veitia
We, Z Group have an original brand called, “Don Veitiaâ€
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View entire thread: Calculating costs for Cost of Goods Sold
Posted by JavaGreg on 2006-06-06 23:24:09 Post Subject: Calculating costs for Cost of Goods Sold
I am working on a business plan to start up a coffee shop in the Milwaukee area. I have started to do some market research, but I feel that I really need to spend more time in the area of where the coffee shop will be. Finding time to do that is difficult.
I would like to find out what the average costs are for selling coffee products and non-coffee products. From research I found that a pound of coffee makes approximately 50 cups of coffee. So for specialty coffee it will cost appx. 24 cents per cup. But what is the cost when other ingredients are added (soy milk, flavorings...)? Is there an average mark-up price?
We also plan on selling pastries that we buy from a local baker.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Posted by JavaGreg on 2006-06-06 23:24:09 Post Subject: Calculating costs for Cost of Goods Sold
I am working on a business plan to start up a coffee shop in the Milwaukee area. I have started to do some market research, but I feel that I really need to spend more time in the area of where the coffee shop will be. Finding time to do that is difficult.
I would like to find out what the average costs are for selling coffee products and non-coffee products. From research I found that a pound of coffee makes approximately 50 cups of coffee. So for specialty coffee it will cost appx. 24 cents per cup. But what is the cost when other ingredients are added (soy milk, flavorings...)? Is there an average mark-up price?
We also plan on selling pastries that we buy from a local baker.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks
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View entire thread: Coffee at work help
Posted by stoneisman on 2008-07-22 09:37:48 Post Subject: Coffee at work help
Hi All,
My job has free coffee that is so bad I can''t stand it. I can''t do without my coffee during the day and don''t want to run out and buy a couple times a day. Can I please have some recommendations for the best (relatively speaking) instant/single brew coffee products that don''t involve a machine or anything other then hot water?
Thanks!
Peter
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Posted by stoneisman on 2008-07-22 09:37:48 Post Subject: Coffee at work help
Hi All,
My job has free coffee that is so bad I can''t stand it. I can''t do without my coffee during the day and don''t want to run out and buy a couple times a day. Can I please have some recommendations for the best (relatively speaking) instant/single brew coffee products that don''t involve a machine or anything other then hot water?
Thanks!
Peter
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View entire thread: Gano Excel Coffee/Ignite Electric
Posted by billagirly on 2007-03-12 09:40:23 Post Subject: Gano Excel Coffee/Ignite Electric
I received an e-mail regarding Gano Excel coffee products/Ignite electric. I have no idea what this is referring to, but I do know that I received the e-mail because I had responded to a CraigsList post months ago about an opportunity in the coffee industry. Apparently the poster and I communicated, because he wrote me an email a couple days ago wondering if I had opened a shop yet, and then proceeded to tell me he has had luck with this company and asked me if I'd like to know more. I said yes, but until he writes back, I was hoping someone around here would know what the heck this company is/does.
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Posted by billagirly on 2007-03-12 09:40:23 Post Subject: Gano Excel Coffee/Ignite Electric
I received an e-mail regarding Gano Excel coffee products/Ignite electric. I have no idea what this is referring to, but I do know that I received the e-mail because I had responded to a CraigsList post months ago about an opportunity in the coffee industry. Apparently the poster and I communicated, because he wrote me an email a couple days ago wondering if I had opened a shop yet, and then proceeded to tell me he has had luck with this company and asked me if I'd like to know more. I said yes, but until he writes back, I was hoping someone around here would know what the heck this company is/does.
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View entire thread: Fantini Expresso Beans in the UK?
Posted by pstam on 2005-01-24 15:24:31 Post Subject: Re: Fantini Expresso Beans in the UK?
While in Rome I particurlarly enjoyed this brand of expresso, it appeared in most cafes and restaraunts. However I am unable to source it in the UK. Does anyone know where I could buy the beans? or should I go back to Rome and take up smuggling?. Cheers
Mostly you have to go back to Rome again for the coffee.
Right now, you do not see many Italian coffee products out Italy because they are most family companies and do not expect very big business. And therefore, they prefer to remain at home for most time.
By the way, someone told me that Italian people do not like to be abroard because they cannot have good espresso out Italy.
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Posted by pstam on 2005-01-24 15:24:31 Post Subject: Re: Fantini Expresso Beans in the UK?
While in Rome I particurlarly enjoyed this brand of expresso, it appeared in most cafes and restaraunts. However I am unable to source it in the UK. Does anyone know where I could buy the beans? or should I go back to Rome and take up smuggling?. Cheers
Mostly you have to go back to Rome again for the coffee.
Right now, you do not see many Italian coffee products out Italy because they are most family companies and do not expect very big business. And therefore, they prefer to remain at home for most time.
By the way, someone told me that Italian people do not like to be abroard because they cannot have good espresso out Italy.
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View entire thread: Starbucks has competition!? Shop owners, what do you think??
Posted by mcohveca on 2005-09-26 08:11:16 Post Subject: Starbucks has competition!? Shop owners, what do you think??
Hello All,
We are trying to determine the success of a new product that may compete with SBX Doubleshot, and Frappacino.
It is called Jablum Classic. Made from 100% Jamaica Blue Mountain Coffee (Mavis Bank Central Factory) with cream and sugar, bottled in a sexy blue bottle.
You can see an image here: http://cohvecacoffee.com/Merchant2/merc ... y_Code=UC5
Shop owners, what do you think? Can this compete with SBX? I know that SBX sells around $90million/year worth of their bottled coffee products. There is no comparable product for coffee shops to sell(unless you are SBX!), so do you think this will do well?
Thanks,
Alex
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Posted by mcohveca on 2005-09-26 08:11:16 Post Subject: Starbucks has competition!? Shop owners, what do you think??
Hello All,
We are trying to determine the success of a new product that may compete with SBX Doubleshot, and Frappacino.
It is called Jablum Classic. Made from 100% Jamaica Blue Mountain Coffee (Mavis Bank Central Factory) with cream and sugar, bottled in a sexy blue bottle.
You can see an image here: http://cohvecacoffee.com/Merchant2/merc ... y_Code=UC5
Shop owners, what do you think? Can this compete with SBX? I know that SBX sells around $90million/year worth of their bottled coffee products. There is no comparable product for coffee shops to sell(unless you are SBX!), so do you think this will do well?
Thanks,
Alex
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View entire thread: Pasco, Kennewick, Richland WA - Anyone know of a local retai
Posted by CafeBlue on 2006-12-08 02:31:33 Post Subject:
Glad to hear you are ready to start drinking top quality coffee that is fresh roasted. Try a Ethiopian Yrrgacheffe or a "Cup of Excellence" award winning coffee.
Zoka Coffee Roasters is in WA and they offer exceptional coffee products. zokacoffee.com
Since mail order and internet order is easy = try stumptowncoffee.com they are in Oregon, or intelligentsiacoffee.com, or counterculturecoffee.com for a little longer distance coffee lovers relationship.
Find a few non-big-chain cafes and coffee roasters in your neighborhood or when you are travelling by logging on to delocator.net
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Posted by CafeBlue on 2006-12-08 02:31:33 Post Subject:
Glad to hear you are ready to start drinking top quality coffee that is fresh roasted. Try a Ethiopian Yrrgacheffe or a "Cup of Excellence" award winning coffee.
Zoka Coffee Roasters is in WA and they offer exceptional coffee products. zokacoffee.com
Since mail order and internet order is easy = try stumptowncoffee.com they are in Oregon, or intelligentsiacoffee.com, or counterculturecoffee.com for a little longer distance coffee lovers relationship.
Find a few non-big-chain cafes and coffee roasters in your neighborhood or when you are travelling by logging on to delocator.net
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View entire thread: wise advice from coffee sages welcome
Posted by espressogirl on 2008-10-23 23:36:16 Post Subject:
First of all, congratulations for finally opening! That is the first step!
Next is the tricky part, making people visit your shop and hopefully liking it enough to come back and tell their friends about it.
So, the free pastries should be ok. Sampling them out is a good idea since people are still feeling their way around, checking if your products are indeed ok. If you give then the chance to taste your products without paying, then you're doing them a favor. If they like it enough, I'm sure they are willing to pay for them next time around.
Bottomline: be on top of your products! If you are selling muffins, make sure it is a very good muffin for its price. Ask them how lthey liked it, and make adjustments if needed. Be open to their feedback since this will truly measure if you do have a good product.
Of course, this will extend to your coffee products as well. If you focus on product quality, then people will slowly notice you.
For now, this is what I can share.
Just be patient, and the fruits will come soon!
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Posted by espressogirl on 2008-10-23 23:36:16 Post Subject:
First of all, congratulations for finally opening! That is the first step!
Next is the tricky part, making people visit your shop and hopefully liking it enough to come back and tell their friends about it.
So, the free pastries should be ok. Sampling them out is a good idea since people are still feeling their way around, checking if your products are indeed ok. If you give then the chance to taste your products without paying, then you're doing them a favor. If they like it enough, I'm sure they are willing to pay for them next time around.
Bottomline: be on top of your products! If you are selling muffins, make sure it is a very good muffin for its price. Ask them how lthey liked it, and make adjustments if needed. Be open to their feedback since this will truly measure if you do have a good product.
Of course, this will extend to your coffee products as well. If you focus on product quality, then people will slowly notice you.
For now, this is what I can share.
Just be patient, and the fruits will come soon!
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View entire thread: Location Synopsis - Give me your Feedback
Posted by cafemakers on 2005-09-09 13:08:34 Post Subject:
alright i have been a professional chef for 13 years in 7 different states,
Not true at all!!!! If you figure your food costs down to the proper percentages and you do a lot of in house prep ie slice your own meats and bake off your own pastries, then you should put the same amount of money in the bank from a gum ball as you do a coffee drink or a sandwich.
In fact adding a selection of pannini and fresh baked pastries will increase your average ticket per customer and again if your prices are set right you will put more in the bank.
KEEP YOUR LABOR COST DOWN?sorry bro but your gonna have to work the place all by your self for a while, unless your married or can take on a partner.
If you need any help or have any questions on how to price your items let me know!!!!
Whereas the traveling chef's credentials are surely impeccable, we cannot endorse these ideas - this is not good business sense. The majority of successful coffee shop locations are designed to be just that, coffee shops, and are not intended to be wholesale bakeries or delicatessens.
Although it is often advisable to offer baked goods and a small selection of food products that will compliment your coffee sales, it is not practical to assume that all coffee shops are suitable to maintain a wholesale bakery or full kitchen on-site (particularly a combination coffee shop and bakery staffed by one (1) employee!). With an gross margin of 70-75% on specialty coffee products sold, it is unrealistic to expect that you can maintain the same profit margin from a muffin or other pastry provided by an outside supplier.
...this is before we even ask what happens to the business when the lone owner/operator falls ill, wishes to take a day off or needs to go to the bathroom during the work day. Placing such demands on oneself is prohibitive to the growth of your business; if you are solely dedicated to the task of operating your business, you can never improve that business location, let alone have the time to expand to new locations.
The larger remaining issue is still the traffic volume that is simply not available to support this business to any reasonable level of profitability.
You are welcome to take the advice of the meals-on-wheels fellow, but we still believe that the venture will be a poor investment.
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Posted by cafemakers on 2005-09-09 13:08:34 Post Subject:
alright i have been a professional chef for 13 years in 7 different states,
Not true at all!!!! If you figure your food costs down to the proper percentages and you do a lot of in house prep ie slice your own meats and bake off your own pastries, then you should put the same amount of money in the bank from a gum ball as you do a coffee drink or a sandwich.
In fact adding a selection of pannini and fresh baked pastries will increase your average ticket per customer and again if your prices are set right you will put more in the bank.
KEEP YOUR LABOR COST DOWN?sorry bro but your gonna have to work the place all by your self for a while, unless your married or can take on a partner.
If you need any help or have any questions on how to price your items let me know!!!!
Whereas the traveling chef's credentials are surely impeccable, we cannot endorse these ideas - this is not good business sense. The majority of successful coffee shop locations are designed to be just that, coffee shops, and are not intended to be wholesale bakeries or delicatessens.
Although it is often advisable to offer baked goods and a small selection of food products that will compliment your coffee sales, it is not practical to assume that all coffee shops are suitable to maintain a wholesale bakery or full kitchen on-site (particularly a combination coffee shop and bakery staffed by one (1) employee!). With an gross margin of 70-75% on specialty coffee products sold, it is unrealistic to expect that you can maintain the same profit margin from a muffin or other pastry provided by an outside supplier.
...this is before we even ask what happens to the business when the lone owner/operator falls ill, wishes to take a day off or needs to go to the bathroom during the work day. Placing such demands on oneself is prohibitive to the growth of your business; if you are solely dedicated to the task of operating your business, you can never improve that business location, let alone have the time to expand to new locations.
The larger remaining issue is still the traffic volume that is simply not available to support this business to any reasonable level of profitability.
You are welcome to take the advice of the meals-on-wheels fellow, but we still believe that the venture will be a poor investment.
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View entire thread: Feedback on my site?
Posted by Caffeine Enthusiast on 2007-01-18 11:51:40 Post Subject:
Looks like it's only there for the purpose of displaying adsense.
Yeah, I have adsense on there to try to cover the cost of the hosting, but I was hoping some people would find the articles, tips, and other information that I provide useful.
Edit: To be a little more descriptive with regards to the use of AdSense, it's the primary means of covering my costs for the site. I wanted to provide some free information. I was trying to decide how to best display the ads so they're not too obtrusive, so I'll have to play around with that.
I was also considering adding product links to Amazon on the same page where I describe the different types of coffee products (maker, grinder, etc). This would allow me to remove some Google ads from the page while offering the opportunity to buy something that a visitor might appreciate more than miscellaneous coffee ads. That might help make a better balance with less ads but still providing the chance to cover my expenses.
(On a side note, I apologize for the link in my first post. I didn't read the FAQ for this forum first like I should have.)
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Posted by Caffeine Enthusiast on 2007-01-18 11:51:40 Post Subject:
Looks like it's only there for the purpose of displaying adsense.
Yeah, I have adsense on there to try to cover the cost of the hosting, but I was hoping some people would find the articles, tips, and other information that I provide useful.
Edit: To be a little more descriptive with regards to the use of AdSense, it's the primary means of covering my costs for the site. I wanted to provide some free information. I was trying to decide how to best display the ads so they're not too obtrusive, so I'll have to play around with that.
I was also considering adding product links to Amazon on the same page where I describe the different types of coffee products (maker, grinder, etc). This would allow me to remove some Google ads from the page while offering the opportunity to buy something that a visitor might appreciate more than miscellaneous coffee ads. That might help make a better balance with less ads but still providing the chance to cover my expenses.
(On a side note, I apologize for the link in my first post. I didn't read the FAQ for this forum first like I should have.)
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View entire thread: 1st 4 days Brand New Drive Thru Numbers
Posted by jatkinson on 2007-03-06 15:58:10 Post Subject: 1st 4 days Brand New Drive Thru Numbers
My wife and I just opened a small double drive thru 4 days ago and I thought I'd post our numbers and get feedback from some of the seasoned coffee vets. Some background on our location, we're on a 2 lane highway in Northern CA with a 40,000 car count per day. We have no competion within 20 miles each direction and are at the halfway point for commuters heading in either direction. We were at 20 cars this morning by 8am but then there was an unannounced scheduled power outage thanks to PG&E until Noon!!! We feature Portland Roasting Coffee products, bagels, muffins, smoothies, teas, italian sodas.
Sales
Saturday: 13
Sunday: 15
Monday: 21
Tuesday: 35 at 1:45pm
Based on the location it seems like we'll do well and we have plenty of signage and will be adding more. We're planning our grand reopening for St pattys day weekend with an irish twist. Anyone have any input on our numbers so far? I'm not discouraged at all by the low numbers as we are only literally 4 days in.
Thank You!!
James
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Posted by jatkinson on 2007-03-06 15:58:10 Post Subject: 1st 4 days Brand New Drive Thru Numbers
My wife and I just opened a small double drive thru 4 days ago and I thought I'd post our numbers and get feedback from some of the seasoned coffee vets. Some background on our location, we're on a 2 lane highway in Northern CA with a 40,000 car count per day. We have no competion within 20 miles each direction and are at the halfway point for commuters heading in either direction. We were at 20 cars this morning by 8am but then there was an unannounced scheduled power outage thanks to PG&E until Noon!!! We feature Portland Roasting Coffee products, bagels, muffins, smoothies, teas, italian sodas.
Sales
Saturday: 13
Sunday: 15
Monday: 21
Tuesday: 35 at 1:45pm
Based on the location it seems like we'll do well and we have plenty of signage and will be adding more. We're planning our grand reopening for St pattys day weekend with an irish twist. Anyone have any input on our numbers so far? I'm not discouraged at all by the low numbers as we are only literally 4 days in.
Thank You!!
James
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View entire thread: Did anyone see this about starbucks????
Posted by CoffeeLuver216 on 2004-10-07 16:28:45 Post Subject:
You would give a infant child (12 is not even a teenager) cups of coffee just as you would give him cups of water. wow tell a pediatrician that one. And my point was i would like to enjoy coffee and coffee products without parents who let their young children drink coffee trying to shut down starbucks because their children are gonna drink their alcohol products now. makes no sense. They should worry about other problems out there.
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Posted by CoffeeLuver216 on 2004-10-07 16:28:45 Post Subject:
You would give a infant child (12 is not even a teenager) cups of coffee just as you would give him cups of water. wow tell a pediatrician that one. And my point was i would like to enjoy coffee and coffee products without parents who let their young children drink coffee trying to shut down starbucks because their children are gonna drink their alcohol products now. makes no sense. They should worry about other problems out there.
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View entire thread: Trying to find the perfect water/coffee ratio
Posted by Drakyn on 2008-01-20 21:37:44 Post Subject:
This also always had me confused and I wonder if anyone could take this any further. Here''s the deal:
Nearly all coffee products say 1 - 2 Tablespoons for every 6 or 8 oz. of water. Okay. I use your standard drip coffee maker. So, if I want a full pot of coffee, 12 cups usually, then I need to throw 12 - 24 tablespoons of coffee grounds into the filter/basket? This just seems a little too much to me. Or am I wrong? I grind my coffee very fine in order to squeeze out all the flavor of the bean and I like the strong taste. But, it would seem that if I used this much on a full pot, then it would almost be undrinkable.
I have found that around 1/2 to 3/4 of of cup of fine grounds will make a nice strong pot of coffee. Why don''t the numbers add up?
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Posted by Drakyn on 2008-01-20 21:37:44 Post Subject:
This also always had me confused and I wonder if anyone could take this any further. Here''s the deal:
Nearly all coffee products say 1 - 2 Tablespoons for every 6 or 8 oz. of water. Okay. I use your standard drip coffee maker. So, if I want a full pot of coffee, 12 cups usually, then I need to throw 12 - 24 tablespoons of coffee grounds into the filter/basket? This just seems a little too much to me. Or am I wrong? I grind my coffee very fine in order to squeeze out all the flavor of the bean and I like the strong taste. But, it would seem that if I used this much on a full pot, then it would almost be undrinkable.
I have found that around 1/2 to 3/4 of of cup of fine grounds will make a nice strong pot of coffee. Why don''t the numbers add up?
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View entire thread: Trying to find the perfect water/coffee ratio
Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2008-01-21 13:46:13 Post Subject:
This also always had me confused and I wonder if anyone could take this any further. Here''s the deal:
Nearly all coffee products say 1 - 2 Tablespoons for every 6 or 8 oz. of water. Okay. I use your standard drip coffee maker. So, if I want a full pot of coffee, 12 cups usually, then I need to throw 12 - 24 tablespoons of coffee grounds into the filter/basket? This just seems a little too much to me. Or am I wrong? I grind my coffee very fine in order to squeeze out all the flavor of the bean and I like the strong taste. But, it would seem that if I used this much on a full pot, then it would almost be undrinkable.
I have found that around 1/2 to 3/4 of of cup of fine grounds will make a nice strong pot of coffee. Why don''t the numbers add up?
12 cups at 6 to 8 ounce = 72 to 84 ounce of liquid. Is the volume correct? You should measure how much water is 12 cups for your machine. You should then weight your coffee. A rough translation of John P's metric measurement means use 2 ounces (1/8 of a pound, I would use a little less, but that is my preference) of coffee for 32 ounces (2 pints) of water. Once you know the correct dosage you can then translate that to table spoon or cup.
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Posted by ElPugDiablo on 2008-01-21 13:46:13 Post Subject:
This also always had me confused and I wonder if anyone could take this any further. Here''s the deal:
Nearly all coffee products say 1 - 2 Tablespoons for every 6 or 8 oz. of water. Okay. I use your standard drip coffee maker. So, if I want a full pot of coffee, 12 cups usually, then I need to throw 12 - 24 tablespoons of coffee grounds into the filter/basket? This just seems a little too much to me. Or am I wrong? I grind my coffee very fine in order to squeeze out all the flavor of the bean and I like the strong taste. But, it would seem that if I used this much on a full pot, then it would almost be undrinkable.
I have found that around 1/2 to 3/4 of of cup of fine grounds will make a nice strong pot of coffee. Why don''t the numbers add up?
12 cups at 6 to 8 ounce = 72 to 84 ounce of liquid. Is the volume correct? You should measure how much water is 12 cups for your machine. You should then weight your coffee. A rough translation of John P's metric measurement means use 2 ounces (1/8 of a pound, I would use a little less, but that is my preference) of coffee for 32 ounces (2 pints) of water. Once you know the correct dosage you can then translate that to table spoon or cup.
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Posted by Var on 2008-06-06 16:35:44 Post Subject:
Hardly. In France, coffee is plain old awful. In Italy, the average quality of espresso is higher than what you will get in average US shop, but the top level US shops are better than most of the espresso you will get in Italy.
I found that the cappuccio I'd buy every morning in Italy was stupendous. It was in Italy that I began to really enjoy coffee products. Before then in California I went to cafes mainly for the ambiance and music, because the (affordable) coffee was bad.
As for France, it's not hard to find sublime coffee. But I did notice that in very touristy parts of Paris the cafe au laits were mediocre to bad. But then, in highly touristed areas of any city there is the high risk of that.
In Austria the coffee was wonderful, less so in Germany.
Whether buying coffee or anything else in Europe, you have to look at where the locals go. The locals don't go to touristy spots. Time and time again I found that if I watched to see where they go, or just asked, I was rewarded.
When I've applied this rule of following the crowd in the US, often the result is disaster. Americans just want to be where the crowd is. Starbucks is the worst, it's just Chucky Cheese for Adults (CCA).
But again if one asks an aficionado in the US, one can find something good.
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Posted by Var on 2008-06-06 16:35:44 Post Subject:
Hardly. In France, coffee is plain old awful. In Italy, the average quality of espresso is higher than what you will get in average US shop, but the top level US shops are better than most of the espresso you will get in Italy.
I found that the cappuccio I'd buy every morning in Italy was stupendous. It was in Italy that I began to really enjoy coffee products. Before then in California I went to cafes mainly for the ambiance and music, because the (affordable) coffee was bad.
As for France, it's not hard to find sublime coffee. But I did notice that in very touristy parts of Paris the cafe au laits were mediocre to bad. But then, in highly touristed areas of any city there is the high risk of that.
In Austria the coffee was wonderful, less so in Germany.
Whether buying coffee or anything else in Europe, you have to look at where the locals go. The locals don't go to touristy spots. Time and time again I found that if I watched to see where they go, or just asked, I was rewarded.
When I've applied this rule of following the crowd in the US, often the result is disaster. Americans just want to be where the crowd is. Starbucks is the worst, it's just Chucky Cheese for Adults (CCA).
But again if one asks an aficionado in the US, one can find something good.
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