CCafe, I agree that FETCO is only marginally better than BUNN in certain areas, but if you've ever taken a piece of CURTIS equipment apart, you would say otherwise about them. Their equipment is built like a tank and utilizes the most state-of-the-art control boards I have ever seen. I've met some of the CURTIS engineers, and they are way ahead of the bell-curve in our industry. And no, I don't sell coffee brewers, I just appreciate good technology when I see it.