Re: maby japan knows what real espresso is
EspressoOutfitters said:
Starbucks never has, nor ever will serve true espresso. That inline with how they conduct business is what will always hold them back. Do not even expect starbucks to even be in biz 20 years from now.
True about the real espresso. but them not being around in 20 years!
naa man.,, they will be here for centuries! so will mc donalds!
most customers who drink starbucks coffee dont even know what real espresso is.
they probably couldnt even careless. starbucks is brand not coffee! I have traveled around asia and been to a few starbuck stores.
they are full of asian woman who think USA brand is cool! WOW STARBUCKS! they wouldnt have a clue what a dark roast or light roast taste likes.. they dont go there for the coffee experience! they go for the STARBUCKS exeperience.. and thats a big difference..
tell me which coffee chain has the money, resouces to takeover Starbucks?
its not going to happen.. there will always be fastfood takeout style expresso stores all over world.. francise stores.. and starbucks will lead that business module.
coffee aficionados like us and many others in this world. will support the other players..
I love hamburgers.. I will eat a big mac when I am in need of a fix! and there is no real burger joint around. also mc donalds is alright..
and starbucks will do when I am in need and nothing is around..
and you can always count on a starbucks or MC DONALDS to be around.
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Japan starbucks.. well.. there rents are HUGE!!!! just to expensive! and the competition now there is crazy! I was there in 2001 and they were swarming with francises.. and now its even worse! still starbucks has the biggest store there.. right downtown smack in shinjuku. but that rent must KILL THEM! and basically they dont have the coffee culture western countries have! and why should they! and acually they never will..
the structure of the landscape and work ethic doesnt have room for the trendy coffee lifestyle! sure coffee to go! but thats what it is.. just coffee to go.. and in japan and other asia countries.. any coffee will do! cheaper the better.. starbucks is expenisve for coffee habits..
I mean, seattle, new york, toronto, sydney, melbourne, etc...
these places are coffee lifestyle cities.. the whole urban culyure diverstity in the city creates that feeling too.. asian cities are all francises!!
It will take more than a few coffee shops to change that culture into a coffee (LIFESTYLE) society
ITALY for example.. very coffee lifestyle.. but completly different to western style.. but it works.. will starbucks work.. UMMMMM hahaha probably not!! lets see how the one the paris goes..
we need lifestyle!!