Espresso upgrade decisions

Which one is the best option?

  • Lelit Grace PL81T

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  • Lelit Victoria PL91T

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  • Bezzera BZ09 S PM

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  • Vibiemme Domobar Inox

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  • Bezzera Unica PID manuale

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  • La Pavoni Europiccola

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  • Something else (i'll write comment under your post)

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Hi espresso experts,
I spent couple of weeks deciding how to upgrade my set of Delonghi espresso and grinder combo, as now is finally time to move forward.
After reading this awesome forum, reviews, videos, comparisons I would like to ask you for help guys, as it is really tough decision.

I am deciding between 3 categories according to my budget for price category I will use: € / €€ / €€€


Lelit Grace PL81T (LLC/PID, 57mm portafilter, 0,25 l brass boiler) €
Lelit Victoria PL91T (LLC/PID, 58mm portafilter, 0,3 l brass boiler) € €
Bezzera BZ09 S PM (no-PID, 58mm portafilter, 0,5 l copper boiler) € €

+ good grinder, slightly pricier

Or E61 category


Vibiemme Domobar Inox (no-PID, 58mm portafilter, 0,75 l copper bojler) € €
Lelit Mara PL62 (no-PID, 58mm portafilter, 1,5 l DOUBLE copper boiler) € € €
Bezzera Unica PID manuale (PID, 58mm portafilter, 0,5 l copper boiler) € € €

+ good grinder, less expensive

Or Manual La Pavoni which would be exciting experience

La Pavoni Europiccola (no-PID, 52mm portafilter, 0,8 l brass boiler) €

+ good grinder, slightly pricier

yeah and I have this question.. would it be so important for you that machine has PID, so you would prefer lower espresso category before E61?

Thank you guys for answers and help :coffee: