Help me pick a low end machine

birv2

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My Via Venezia just kicked the bucket after about 15 years. It was a great machine and I certainly got my money's worth out of it. Now I'm looking for something even less expensive and smaller (tiny kitchen counter space).

I'm looking at the Casabrews 20 bar machine(https://www.amazon.com/Espresso-Pro...e-garden&sprefix=casab,garden,120&sr=1-4&th=1)

, the Wirsh machine(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C2GV7T2..._=aa_maas&tag=highlightreviews-217348-20&th=1), and the DeLonghi Stilosa(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C96BG9H?tag=tccmedia-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1).

I realize they're all low end but I"m ok with that as long as they heat up and you can pull a decent shot from them. Thanks!
 

shadow745

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Hilarious how much marketing B.S. is involved, especially on Scamazon. 'Professional and 20 bars' is just misleading at best. People tend to think a stronger pump means more capable, but higher pressure is usually the result of cheap/undersized plumbing that affects pressure with less flow rate. Kind of like a pressure washer in that GPM (flow rate) is more important overall than just high PSI.

Instead of those options have you considered an actual quality machine used at a fair price? I have scored some fantastic deals as most people don't know what they have and/or grow tired of the process and practically give it away.
 

birv2

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Charleston, SC
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Hilarious how much marketing B.S. is involved, especially on Scamazon. 'Professional and 20 bars' is just misleading at best. People tend to think a stronger pump means more capable, but higher pressure is usually the result of cheap/undersized plumbing that affects pressure with less flow rate. Kind of like a pressure washer in that GPM (flow rate) is more important overall than just high PSI.

Instead of those options have you considered an actual quality machine used at a fair price? I have scored some fantastic deals as most people don't know what they have and/or grow tired of the process and practically give it away.
Thanks for the reply. I've considered buying used but would like to get a warranty.
 

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