Help me pick a low end machine

[birv2]

My Via Venezia just kicked the bucket after about 15 years. It was a great machine and I certainly got my money's worth out of it. Now I'm looking for something even less expensive and smaller (tiny kitchen counter space).

I'm looking at the Casabrews 20 bar machine(https://www.amazon.com/Espresso-Pro...e-garden&sprefix=casab,garden,120&sr=1-4&th=1)

, the Wirsh machine(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C2GV7T2..._=aa_maas&tag=highlightreviews-217348-20&th=1), and the DeLonghi Stilosa(https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C96BG9H?tag=tccmedia-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1).

I realize they're all low end but I"m ok with that as long as they heat up and you can pull a decent shot from them. Thanks!

 

[shadow745]

Hilarious how much marketing B.S. is involved, especially on Scamazon. 'Professional and 20 bars' is just misleading at best. People tend to think a stronger pump means more capable, but higher pressure is usually the result of cheap/undersized plumbing that affects pressure with less flow rate. Kind of like a pressure washer in that GPM (flow rate) is more important overall than just high PSI.

Instead of those options have you considered an actual quality machine used at a fair price? I have scored some fantastic deals as most people don't know what they have and/or grow tired of the process and practically give it away.

 

[birv2]

Hilarious how much marketing B.S. is involved, especially on Scamazon. 'Professional and 20 bars' is just misleading at best. People tend to think a stronger pump means more capable, but higher pressure is usually the result of cheap/undersized plumbing that affects pressure with less flow rate. Kind of like a pressure washer in that GPM (flow rate) is more important overall than just high PSI.

Instead of those options have you considered an actual quality machine used at a fair price? I have scored some fantastic deals as most people don't know what they have and/or grow tired of the process and practically give it away.

Thanks for the reply. I've considered buying used but would like to get a warranty.

 

[shadow745]

Thanks for the reply. I've considered buying used but would like to get a warranty.

Understand that and with those lower tier machines you'll likely need it. I'm not one for pushing crazy priced equipment, but a decent setup isn't dime store cheap to be honest.

 

[Buskers Brew Coffee]

I had a Gaggia Classic for about 10 years and it was GREAT. I know that there have been some issues with the Newer EVO model. If you can, wait until they resolve that issue or find a Classic model up until about 2020.

 

[birv2]

I went even more low end and ordered a Bialetta moka pot. We'll see how this goes, stay tuned.