Re: told you these guys were sweet talkers!
tlhamzy said:
Jeff, save your breath..everyone knows in their hearts that you know Sam is a crook, and you knew it when you gave a reference. You are just as much to blame for supporting a criminal. I have it on good authority, that Sam has been involved in criminal activity since the late 1980's.
I am glad you say you are going to stop enabling your brother's criminal behaviour towards nice innocent folks just trying to start a business. But can anyone believe anything you say? They'd be fool, like I was.
Just after I sent my money, the new web site was up, in fact the date it went up is the exact date I wired my money and Sam got an 800 number. Looks like my money went in your pocket.
So, save your sweet con lies, that you and your brother are so good at, and give us all some credit.
Your brother has my MOTHER's address, from when he was pretending to send the espresso stand, and I was gonna to store it in her RV parking area. Sam also has my address. I can assure you, if anything happens to my family, you guys will be the first implicated.
Nobody has threatened your family, at least I haven't. I do know that Sam has been "strong armed" in the past and driven to the bank. It's sounding better all the time to me.
It was very funny the other day, when I called the Life Tabernacle in Tulsa, of which you had your contact info on Sam's Web site. The girl said she'd never heard of you, and then, when I said..."that's funny, I just got an email from him saying he manages your web site." and she says "oh...." and I said, (and I LOVE THIS PART) "You shouldn't lie like that, GOD doesn't like it when people lie" SHE HUNG UP.
HYPOCRITES hiding behind religion.
So, sweet talk all ya want, try to discredit me all ya want, but the fact is that you are synonymous with Sam's name at the Tulsa Police Dept. they were not surprised when I brought up your name.
So, folks, who ya gonna believe? The Tulsa Police Dept and Me? Or a sweet talking southern boy who's covering for his brother and now covering his own butt? I trust you to make the right choice, or call the Tulsa Police Dept. to verify what I've said.
Jeff, let's stop this....your words are sooo convincing, no wonder I bought your bull back when you called me to give Sam a reference.
Victim in Sacramento
Miss Hamzy,
I think everyone knows how upset you are... you have reason to be. I mean my God! You got taken for a ride by a man halfway across the USA. No one is disputing that and I feel very bad for you as I do all of the victims.
As to criminal behaviour in the 80's... I was in highschool in the late 80's and you will have to produce some proof there... Sam left home to go to college in Wilkesboro, NC and was not seen for several years so I cannot speak for hime during that time period.
I really do not understand what you gain from trying to prove to yourself that I was somehow involved... not only is that preposterous, it shows ignorance.
I was questioned by the Tulsa police as to my brothers dealings since they could not find him... that is common knowledge. I was not involved obviously or they would have taken me to court as well.
As far as calling one of my clients, you obviously dialed a wrong number. I am the web administrator for lifetab.net and many other churches across the US. I do websites for a living on the side. I do it for money as do most other web designers.
I know for a fact that the church does not have a secretary full time.. if you talk to anyone at lifetab.net you would have to call the pastors home which I doubt you were able to find.
Calling the wrong church does not do anything except validate what I said about you being a little nutty or at least acting it.
What does calling one of my clients have to do with this anyway.. enlighten all of us please.
Why on Earth do you think that me building a website for my brother makes me somehow a part of his criminal activity? If I am guilty of the wrongdoings of all my clients then God help us all because I can assure you that some of them are probably not as perfect as you.
My brother came to me about a site BEFORE he had done anything wrong that I knew about and asked me what I would charge to design A site for his business. I did NOT give him a special deal just because he was my brother. I made him pay full price at my normal rate of 60 dollars per hour. He also was charged for any changes that I made to the site... he was a normal client and was treated as such.
Is anyone having a hard time following me on this... I can slow down if neccessary.
I have put up with this Miss Hamzy for the past several months calling me, emailing me, and acting like a general nut job.
She did not call lifetab.net or they would have known me... very well actually. It would be kind of difficult for me to answer email at
webmaster@lifetab.net if I was not the administrator.
So what exactly are you trying to say Miss Hamzy? I am now hacking into their email servers and confiscating their email so I can prove that I am their web admin? That is almost funny.
You are really starting to freak me out honestly.
Feel free to call the Pastor if any of you feel the need to validate Miss Hamzy's many, many, many incorrect statements... I am not going to give out his number online since that would be non kosher but it is not that hard to find if you care to look.
Miss Hamzy, you may want to call the right number next time.
Please read the article mentioned in one of the above posts and let me know if any of you find my name anywhere... I looked high and low and was unable to locate it... I guess Miss Hamzy is seeing some fine print that the rest of us are missing.
By the way, Miss Hamzy I am holding you responsibe for all of your clients wrongdoings. Why not? You seem to think that is the right thing to do.
Miss Hamzy, you were foolish to send that much money to someone you do not know and I can imagine that you feel pretty ashamed of yourself for doing so.
You really need to look at yourself in the mirror and see the one that sent a total stranger 8000 dollars or however much it was... I was totally honest with my character reference as I always have been but I still could not understand why anyone would trust someone with that much money... character reference or not.
You can continue to live inside your pre-fabricated dream world if you like but here in the real world, web designers are not free to take down a clients' website based on allegations, web designers are not guilty of their clients wrong doings, and furthermore the case is now closed. The guilty party..Sam Phillips was given probation and made to pay back what he owes over the next 15 years... that includes you Miss Hamzy.